Spirit of NKS
06-02-2015, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by A320ULCC
No, he is just being an a55 clown.
I am sure he thinks he can do a better job, or some 3 yr capt from some regional.
If you want to set negotiations back several years, go ahead and see what happens when you get someone in there that hasn't dealt with this management before.
I am sure he thinks he can do a better job, or some 3 yr capt from some regional.
If you want to set negotiations back several years, go ahead and see what happens when you get someone in there that hasn't dealt with this management before.
The seniority list includes over 1000 pilots. Are you saying that the best we can do for negotiators is the three proven losers we have now?
The Chair and Vice Chair gave away premium pay, wrote automation language (red/green) that required/requires YEARS of arbitrations, and gave away first year pay. The third member gave away his job at DHL.
Setting negotiations back several years is preferable to another cost neutral, or worse, TA.
They really, truly, do NOT have a positive track record. Unless you count a "we want to surf porn on our iPads and not get into trouble with the company" DL LOA.
06-02-2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro
The seniority list includes over 1000 pilots. Are you saying that the best we can do for negotiators is the three proven losers we have now?
..........The third member gave away his job at DHL.
Setting negotiations back several years is preferable to another cost neutral, or worse, TA.
They really, truly, do NOT have a positive track record. Unless you count a "we want to surf porn on our iPads and not get into trouble with the company" DL LOA.
..........The third member gave away his job at DHL.
Setting negotiations back several years is preferable to another cost neutral, or worse, TA.
They really, truly, do NOT have a positive track record. Unless you count a "we want to surf porn on our iPads and not get into trouble with the company" DL LOA.
06-02-2015, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro
The seniority list includes over 1000 pilots. Are you saying that the best we can do for negotiators is the three proven losers we have now?
The Chair and Vice Chair gave away premium pay, wrote automation language (red/green) that required/requires YEARS of arbitrations, and gave away first year pay. The third member gave away his job at DHL.
Setting negotiations back several years is preferable to another cost neutral, or worse, TA.
They really, truly, do NOT have a positive track record. Unless you count a "we want to surf porn on our iPads and not get into trouble with the company" DL LOA.
The Chair and Vice Chair gave away premium pay, wrote automation language (red/green) that required/requires YEARS of arbitrations, and gave away first year pay. The third member gave away his job at DHL.
Setting negotiations back several years is preferable to another cost neutral, or worse, TA.
They really, truly, do NOT have a positive track record. Unless you count a "we want to surf porn on our iPads and not get into trouble with the company" DL LOA.
06-02-2015, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
If the above is all true than this isn't good for the members.
Last edited by Et tu Bluto; 06-02-2015 at 08:26 PM. Reason: spelling
06-02-2015, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Slug
Why don't you just skip the cliches and let us all know what is true and what isn't?
As for Morrison, he was on the negotiating committee for a time but was not part of the group that negotiated the DHL CBA of 2008, where it was agreed that ALPA would abandon its scope litigation against DPWN. I know this to be true. I was there. What GeauxPro said was patently false.
Sorry for employing cliches, by the way. I guess you're more comfortable with malicious misrepresentations of peoples' character?
06-03-2015, 04:06 AM
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So I was potentially interested in Spirit as an alternative to my current situation. But, I just read about this whole FA in the engine situation. What a completely screwed up moral code and management you guys have. Is there an un-apply button?
06-03-2015, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
So I was potentially interested in Spirit as an alternative to my current situation. But, I just read about this whole FA in the engine situation. What a completely screwed up moral code and management you guys have. Is there an un-apply button?
FLUSH....
so long d0uche bag
(Fish on!)
06-03-2015, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
So I was potentially interested in Spirit as an alternative to my current situation. But, I just read about this whole FA in the engine situation. What a completely screwed up moral code and management you guys have. Is there an un-apply button?
06-03-2015, 04:35 AM
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We got some here... Limited... But some nonetheless.
Anyway this always goes back to the whole "grass is greener" concept. Looks like the grass is green enough to me.
And ramrod... You make Farva look like a genius.
Anyway this always goes back to the whole "grass is greener" concept. Looks like the grass is green enough to me.
And ramrod... You make Farva look like a genius.
06-03-2015, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
And ramrod... You make Farva look like a genius.
Then... back under your bridge
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