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Old 08-14-2015 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
You don't mess with a man's family, you're right. And I think Android was just a little hasty, but he's right they need to be more proactive. I sure hope this crap gets fixed quick!
I'm with Android's position. Casually saying you are grieving something just doesn't cut it. Gonnsen has always been lame and shouldn't be in that position.

For those if you that don't care, I'm glad to hear you have no illness in your family.
Old 08-14-2015 | 05:11 PM
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So I guess this violation just isnt heinous enough to Implement our 'fast track arbitration' provided in contract 2010 ...
If we have such a provision, we need to attempt to activate it now and not wait until later as I found out in a previous pilot group that waited to file a grievance and a judge denied it stating that the pilot group was "making it work for over a year so they couldn't grieve it later" I.e. If you don't use it you lose it!
Old 08-14-2015 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by InTrail
I'm with Android's position. Casually saying you are grieving something just doesn't cut it. Gonnsen has always been lame and shouldn't be in that position.

For those if you that don't care, I'm glad to hear you have no illness in your family.
I would like to have heard a more butt-kicking tone... two months ago. However I am glad they are looking at it now. I guess this request for info is the first step. I'm glad we were in a position to pay up front and now try to get UHC to reimburse us.
Old 08-14-2015 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerosene Xwind
If we have such a provision, we need to attempt to activate it now and not wait until later as I found out in a previous pilot group that waited to file a grievance and a judge denied it stating that the pilot group was "making it work for over a year so they couldn't grieve it later" I.e. If you don't use it you lose it!
We had a similar situation with the red/green. I think we have 60 or 90 days to file a grievance. Once that is done, it is in the system and as long as it takes to arbitrate is fine.


NOT TO SAY THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE FAST TRACKED

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Old 08-15-2015 | 07:33 AM
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Great news out yesterday, the FAs are finally getting KCM. It's long overdue.
Old 08-15-2015 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Great news out yesterday, the FAs are finally getting KCM. It's long overdue.
Ad-lib for Spirit!

"Great news out (______), the (________) are finally getting (______). It's long overdue."
Old 08-15-2015 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Great news out yesterday, the FAs are finally getting KCM. It's long overdue.
Another win for aviation security
Old 08-15-2015 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
We had a similar situation with the red/green. I think we have 60 or 90 days to file a grievance. Once that is done, it is in the system and as long as it takes to arbitrate is fine.


NOT TO SAY THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE FAST TRACKED
My point was not about the grievance they already did that. It's about using the fast track. If we wait to use the fast track option the judge could say well you didn't think it was urgent enough to use fast track at the beginning (use it) so you can't use it now (lost it). Timing does set precedence.
Old 08-15-2015 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Another win for aviation security
Lol, you funny
Old 08-15-2015 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Another win for aviation security
If security is an issue, I'm fine with TSA getting rid of KCM all together.
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