Just curious about where the non-block credit is coming from.

You sold vacation and worked a JA over it? And what's MUP? Just genuinely curious about soft time and how it worked out in this particular case.

 

Yeah.. Those dirty socialists. A group of people working together for workers rights and stuff. Kind of like a un... Oh never mind.

 

I'm obviously not a fun of the un.... BUT
Since they are here, and I'm paying them, they may as well do their job.

Socialists are always better at collecting money than handing it out, so the logical position would be to minimize their position.

 

There are plenty of non union 135, 91 and even a few 121 carriers that you could go work for. Just think of it, you could negotiate your own contract and live the libertarian dream!

 

Except that your beloved "association", unlike all other true unions is ok with someone with 30 years experience starting at the bottom. In our case for 37.50/hr. Companies don't care because it's pass/fail. FAA doesn't care as long as planes don't fall out of the sky. In this highly regulated industry there is no way to differentiate yourself (just like the socialists like it) therefore there are only two types of airline pilot. Those with knee pads and those without.

 

I think you misunderstood. I said "non union" carriers. You wouldn't have to worry about the socialists holding you down any more. You could truly negotiate your own worth! Just think, you could offer up a sim demonstration where you could show off your mad A320 piloting skills. Surely there are many 135 and 91 operators who would pay a premium for your skill set.

 

This is so true and very well said!


Problem is as long as the next guy doesn't red-screen the sim and offers to do it for $1 less than the first guy, he will be hired.

 

I'm confused.. I thought that was the free market. Shouldn't you guys be able to convince your employer of the value of your skill set and demand a higher price? Isn't that what you guys want?

 

In a merit-based work force, yes, which is basically all of corporate America. The hard worker, the more educated, the more willing, the more competent, the guy who brings the results, those get the promotions, pay raises, and higher starting salaries.

But in an seniority-based system, no. Unfortunately. It doesn't matter the educational background, skill, degrees, how good you work, none of that matters. Have an ATP, pass sim training, and recurrent checks, you are as equal as any other pilot at a company. This is not the case for corporate America, so you can negotiate your own pay.

Heck, I still remember being 22 yrs old with my first engineering job and negotiating my pay and time off. Was completely clueless but I still got a good deal.

You may get 11,000 per month with 16 days off, someone else would negotiate to fly more and get only 14 days off for the same 11,000. The examples are endless because it's a seniority based system that defines pay, vacation, and schedules.

 

Did not sell any vacation. I took the entire week (and the days before and after ) off.

MUP, "Move up pay" is an additional 1.5hrs per day of pay.

Everything worked In my favor, this is definitely not typical.