I'm thinking the "meltdown" and lack of reserves are making them rethink our bases? We have a lot of bases for such a small airline. Bases require Reserves.

Clearly i have no idea how to run an airline, I assume more bases equals the need for more total crews etc? just thinking out loud

 

Where the hell is my "significant progress has been made but a substantial gap remains". "We made it clear that we won't be undervalued". Update?!!!!


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The line of conversation was about "de-hubbing ACY and opening ATL as a base." I was merely responding to the ability to operate ATL as a base without the availability of numerous Gates. But I hope for your sake that ACY is safe from closure.

 

ACY seems like a great back door into the NYC and PHL markets. Why leave?

 

Not leaving, a base can open or close without any change in the flight schedule.

 

finally got the making progress but significant differences remain email. woo hoo!

its like watching an old flick that was redone

 

Meanwhile, it seems SWA has an AIP... I'm curious what their new rates would be...

 

The 29/7 was mentioned. Removing 29/7 renders the transition conflict language next to worthless except for a couple other instances. It also boosts the groups productivity significantly the rest of the month if lost. Productivity increases reduce staffing requirements. Reduction of staffing requirement can drastically affect your relative seniority for long periods of time and maybe your whole career. We all know how seniority affects your day to day and just about everything from what base you can hold to what vacation you get. It also affects upgrades. And at this airline you absolutely have to upgrade to make any money.

I mentioned this productivity issue with the efb loa and nobody listened. It got the company a permanent 1% staffing reduction forever. We got 10hrs of pay. Everything has a price I understand. If we as a group don't mind the seniority ramifications of something as huge as 29/7 then I'm fine with that but we sure as **** better get something amazing for it. I'm talking truly amazing. And when you are the seller in any negotiation it's not about how valuable it is to you but how valuable it is to the buyer that determines what the price is. While some of you may not care I can assure you that this one work rule is the company's number one target right behind getting a pbs system which they know they won't get. We have what they want more than anything and I say we sell for nothing less than having the absolute best contract in the industry starting with section 1. They can and will pay for it. If they don't want to then it's not for sale.

 

I'm on board, damn, make this guy a negotiator! I was against the efb loa, I'm against giving anything away.

 

You will. You are going to lose 29/7 and transition conflict language in exchange for jerkBlue hourly pay plus 3%. It's on the table, bubba!

For the emotional crybabies who thought it would be a good idea to have an MEC of Mesa losers go up against the professional gangsters of Spirit management: The California drought is going to be cured from your tears when Ben and Bendo finish raping you on this contract. Ack-Ack and Friends will be there to help ease it in.