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Old 03-07-2013 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid
Sorry to dash your hopes, but it does.

Spirit, Allegiant, and Southwest are suing the DOT over the rule that requires you publish the cost of an airline ticket to include all the taxes and fees that the government collects. Other than gas, prices in the US never include all the taxes and fees, so why should airlines be singled out? While Allegiant and Southwest are laying low, Spirit is engaged in a much more public campaign.
Southwest doesn't want people to see the full cost, because they need to continue to trick the general public into thinking SWA is a low fare airline. That's why you can only purchase tickets at southwest.com. Many times SWA is more expensive then the other carriers.


Originally Posted by NedsKid
That said, Spirit passing on their low costs to their consumers in the form of low fares is not all lip service. When the FAA was unable to collect their taxes during the 2011 'government shutdown', Spirit returned the extra $ they had collected to their passengers, rather than pocketing it for themselves. I believe the only other airline to do so was Alaska.
Delta also returned the taxes collected during the 2011 FAA shutdown.

Delta to Refund Taxes Paid for Travel During FAA Shutdown - Aug 1, 2011
Old 03-07-2013 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
Thats actually how it works in most developed countries outside the US...
That's fine, why just single out the airlines then?
Old 03-07-2013 | 11:01 AM
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I was sitting in the new crew room chiliin like Bob Dylan in ORD.
Old 03-07-2013 | 02:08 PM
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This latest vacancy/reduction bid is a sham and is making a mockery of the whole process. What is "defensive bidding" anyway, and who are we trying to save from their own bidding errors by re-opening the bid for 24 hours? What about those who are negatively impacted by the re-bid who actually bid correctly the first time?
Old 03-07-2013 | 02:10 PM
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We've seen plenty of Mötley Fool stories on Spirit in the past few weeks/months and there's always been talk of whether the Fool is a good basis or authority on anything, let alone Spirit. Here, Fool makes its own best case why they have NO idea what they're talking about:

Why Apple Isn't Among the 25 Best Companies in America (AAPL)

I realize this doesn't have anything to do with Spirit, but come on, Apple NOT a top 25 best companies in America because of "supply issues" and "worker conditions" with FoxConn? Even though Apple "ranks high with investors, customers and employees", because of the way a Chinese company treats its employees, Apple is a bad company. This is why everything Fool says about Spirit should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
Old 03-07-2013 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Delta also returned the taxes collected during the 2011 FAA shutdown.

Delta to Refund Taxes Paid for Travel During FAA Shutdown - Aug 1, 2011
Saying you 'will' return the taxes isn't the same as actually doing so. I traveled on Delta during the shutdown, still waiting for my refund. I was (emphasis on the past tense) a Platinum Medallion, SkyClub member, and had the credit card too at the time. My reward for loyalty? Bupkis!
Old 03-07-2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
What about those who are negatively impacted by the re-bid who actually bid correctly the first time?
They didn't have the seniority to hold what someone senior to them wanted. Would you really want 5-10 years of service to Spirit abrogated because of an honest mistake while bidding?
Old 03-07-2013 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid
They didn't have the seniority to hold what someone senior to them wanted. Would you really want 5-10 years of service to Spirit abrogated because of an honest mistake while bidding?
Yeah... there's a lot a transfers that don't seem like they should've happened...
Old 03-07-2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid
They didn't have the seniority to hold what someone senior to them wanted. Would you really want 5-10 years of service to Spirit abrogated because of an honest mistake while bidding?
We've been doing this vacancy bid through FLICA long enough that not knowing how to bid is no longer an excuse that holds any water. If they wanted it, they should have entered their bid correctly and in a timely manner. Isn't that the purpose of publishing the snapshot and the multiple bidding tutorials that have been around for the past couple of years? If I forget to put in my monthly bid, should they take someone else's awarded line away from them and to give it to me?
Old 03-07-2013 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
We've been doing this vacancy bid through FLICA long enough that not knowing how to bid is no longer an excuse that holds any water. If they wanted it, they should have entered their bid correctly and in a timely manner. Isn't that the purpose of publishing the snapshot and the multiple bidding tutorials that have been around for the past couple of years? If I forget to put in my monthly bid, should they take someone else's awarded line away from them and to give it to me?
It has nothing to do with bidding incorrectly. With the reduction bid, some pilots had bid for a voluntary displacement out of DTW so they would be eligible for the CBA displacement benefits. The company rescinded the reduction AFTER the bid closed, which left no opportunity for those pilots that still wanted to leave DTW to change their bid accordingly.
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