Spirit of NKS
07-21-2014 | 08:18 PM
#7601
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December-March
So, May 2015
So, May 2015
07-21-2014 | 08:43 PM
#7602
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I dont know man...the arbitration didnt address the minimum reserve staffing that is set on the grid. This month minimum staffing for reserves was insane, like 15 a day in DFW. Next month it is around 5 a day.
It seems like, for whatever reason, the company may be using "historical staffing numbers" as the contract requires.
Either way, I dont care if it was a magical unicorn that got it done, its done.
It seems like, for whatever reason, the company may be using "historical staffing numbers" as the contract requires.
Either way, I dont care if it was a magical unicorn that got it done, its done.
In section 25, it says the company uses its "experience". Now you know why it's screwy.
07-21-2014 | 08:55 PM
#7603
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
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I dont know man...the arbitration didnt address the minimum reserve staffing that is set on the grid. This month minimum staffing for reserves was insane, like 15 a day in DFW. Next month it is around 5 a day.
It seems like, for whatever reason, the company may be using "historical staffing numbers" as the contract requires.
Either way, I dont care if it was a magical unicorn that got it done, its done.
It seems like, for whatever reason, the company may be using "historical staffing numbers" as the contract requires.
Either way, I dont care if it was a magical unicorn that got it done, its done.
In section 25, it says the company uses its "experience". Now you know why it's screwy.
"Based on it's experience" and "historical staffing". It's the same because both language is weak.
It's weak like our 5 days off and red/green without mentioning black. We can't even get clarification on what "high speed internet" is.
07-22-2014 | 12:25 AM
#7604
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No what's "awsome" is the fact that words do mean things. I quoted the contract. "Historical staffing" isn't found in the contract, "experience" is found in the contract.
The language is not weak. "Experience" is exact, it has a definition: (from Blacks Law Dictionary)
EXPERIENCE
1. Time spent learning a skill or field of knowledge. Superior understanding or mastery gained by actual practice acquired over months or years. 2. Known also as tenure
"maybe", "should", "possibly", "to the maximum extent possible" - these are weak.
We probably are on the same page, You say the language is weak and I'm saying that the language doesn't support the idea that most people think it supports. The language isn't weak, it is simply inapplicable.
For that matter, why are "red day" and "green day" not found in the definitions section?
07-22-2014 | 11:04 AM
#7605
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No what's "awsome" is the fact that words do mean things. I quoted the contract. "Historical staffing" isn't found in the contract, "experience" is found in the contract.
The language is not weak. "Experience" is exact, it has a definition: (from Blacks Law Dictionary)
EXPERIENCE
1. Time spent learning a skill or field of knowledge. Superior understanding or mastery gained by actual practice acquired over months or years. 2. Known also as tenure
"maybe", "should", "possibly", "to the maximum extent possible" - these are weak.
We probably are on the same page, You say the language is weak and I'm saying that the language doesn't support the idea that most people think it supports. The language isn't weak, it is simply inapplicable.
For that matter, why are "red day" and "green day" not found in the definitions section?
The language is not weak. "Experience" is exact, it has a definition: (from Blacks Law Dictionary)
EXPERIENCE
1. Time spent learning a skill or field of knowledge. Superior understanding or mastery gained by actual practice acquired over months or years. 2. Known also as tenure
"maybe", "should", "possibly", "to the maximum extent possible" - these are weak.
We probably are on the same page, You say the language is weak and I'm saying that the language doesn't support the idea that most people think it supports. The language isn't weak, it is simply inapplicable.
For that matter, why are "red day" and "green day" not found in the definitions section?
07-22-2014 | 02:24 PM
#7606
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The language was written for a specific purpose, and since it is "inapplicable" I would consider it weak. It isn't fulfilling the purpose the brain-trust meant when writing / accepting the verbiage. The effects of "inapplicable" and "to the greatest extent possible" are the same -whatever the company feels like doing at the time.
07-24-2014 | 07:24 AM
#7607
Line Holder
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From: A320
Can someone please PM me about bidding floating vacation.
07-26-2014 | 06:32 AM
#7608
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From: Airbus
Does anyone have a current order/ return schedule for our planes? I had one from about a year ago, but they have since pulled a few orders forward and changed 20 320s to 321s.
07-26-2014 | 06:53 AM
#7609
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From: Schempp-Hirth
628 here. Not much time for rest after delivery, already in the system.
07-26-2014 | 07:01 AM
#7610
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From: A320 CA
The investor relations section of the spirit.com site appears up-to-date; shows the converted 321s and 319 lease expirations.
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