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Old 06-19-2014 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Looks like only 10 upgrades planned for August. I thought they were going to increase back up to 14/mo.
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Old 06-19-2014 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Looks like only 10 upgrades planned for August. I thought they were going to increase back up to 14/mo.
Deep breath, you'll still make upgrade before you go to your third recurrent. I'm kidding. Seriously though, don't forget to shutoff the engine anti ice before you shut down an engine. Then don't tell me you wrote it up "in case it was something else." It happened more than once this past winter thanks to new upgrades. Oh ya....on a through flight with pax on board.
Old 06-19-2014 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
Deep breath, you'll still make upgrade before you go to your third recurrent. I'm kidding. Seriously though, don't forget to shutoff the engine anti ice before you shut down an engine. Then don't tell me you wrote it up "in case it was something else." It happened more than once this past winter thanks to new upgrades. Oh ya....on a through flight with pax on board.
I'm already in the left seat....?
Old 06-19-2014 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by putzin
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Why don't you read the vacancy announcement in your company email before you post nonsense. It's not a rumor.
Old 06-22-2014 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Why don't you read the vacancy announcement in your company email before you post nonsense. It's not a rumor.
Sorry there Man, my intent was for a little light hearted humor not to mock or insult you. I don't check emails very often and when I do, I certainly don't give them much credence. I guess I have been disappointed too many times so I no longer care until it happens.

I was just happy to see 10 upgrades. I'm also happy to see you still keep faith in the written word, hopefully your experiences will prove better than mine.


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Old 06-24-2014 | 07:02 AM
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So ALPA put out the red/green win, the company put out a rebuttal to our union claim of wrongdoing, and company says that the changes have been applied to the system....July looks like any other month, 3-5 green days, mostly red and black days....is this how is going to be or it'll change in the next few months.
Old 06-24-2014 | 10:08 AM
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So ALPA put out the red/green win, the company put out a rebuttal to our union claim of wrongdoing, and company says that the changes have been applied to the system....July looks like any other month, 3-5 green days, mostly red and black days....is this how is going to be or it'll change in the next few months.
The way I understand it, there is nothing to prevent the company from setting whatever reserve minimums they want prior to the IOT.

So all they have to do now is set that level 1 pilot below the actual reserve staffing. Now everything is 75% green by 1 pilot when going into DOT, which is compliant with the contract. DOT opens and as soon as 1 drop or swap goes through, its black or red again. And now we are all stuck again for the month.

Am I missing something or is this another huge loophole that a 4th grader could exploit if they were running staffing??

The arbitration was about the company changing the reserve staffing requirements after DOT opens, in order to make everything red. But if they simply make 75% green by 1 going into DOT, how does this really help anyone?

Its a joke, it really is. DFW has days of 18 FOs required for reserve coverage, we have 19 going into DOT, 1 drop and then BAM, its black and nothing can be done. 1 day has 2 FOs required for reserve in DFW. How do you have 18 required 1 day and then 2 the next? And if 2 is only required, why do we build schedules with 17 FOs having reserve that day? Those should not even have been built into the schedule if only 2 FOs are required per the company, make those days off on the schedule bid.

Also, *** do Red Eyes count on 2 days when 1 pilot will staff it? So 2 days are Red because of 1 trip? How does this even make sense? In order to drop 1 red eye on a Monday, you have to have a green day on Tuesday?
Old 06-24-2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
The way I understand it, there is nothing to prevent the company from setting whatever reserve minimums they want prior to the IOT.

So all they have to do now is set that level 1 pilot below the actual reserve staffing. Now everything is 75% green by 1 pilot when going into DOT, which is compliant with the contract. DOT opens and as soon as 1 drop or swap goes through, its black or red again. And now we are all stuck again for the month.

Am I missing something or is this another huge loophole that a 4th grader could exploit if they were running staffing??

The arbitration was about the company changing the reserve staffing requirements after DOT opens, in order to make everything red. But if they simply make 75% green by 1 going into DOT, how does this really help anyone?

Its a joke, it really is. DFW has days of 18 FOs required for reserve coverage, we have 19 going into DOT, 1 drop and then BAM, its black and nothing can be done. 1 day has 2 FOs required for reserve in DFW. How do you have 18 required 1 day and then 2 the next? And if 2 is only required, why do we build schedules with 17 FOs having reserve that day? Those should not even have been built into the schedule if only 2 FOs are required per the company, make those days off on the schedule bid.

Also, *** do Red Eyes count on 2 days when 1 pilot will staff it? So 2 days are Red because of 1 trip? How does this even make sense? In order to drop 1 red eye on a Monday, you have to have a green day on Tuesday?
No doubt that the grid manipulation by management is nothing but punitive. And we wonder how PBS would be administered under this management regime...?
Old 06-24-2014 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice

So all they have to do now is set that level 1 pilot below the actual reserve staffing. Now everything is 75% green by 1 pilot when going into DOT, which is compliant with the contract...

Am I missing something or is this another huge loophole that a 4th grader could exploit if they were running staffing??
How is this for a loophole...
Say the company sets the required reserves so that the entire month is RED. MEC calls the company and says "Hey, we are above 25% red days." The company lowers threshold so that only one day turns green by one pilot. Are they in compliance with the CBA? I think they are.

If the number of red
days in a bid month exceeds 25 percent in any one category/
domicile, the Company will decrease the minimum required
reserve coverage threshold to allow for the approval of a greater
number of net credit loss transactions.
It doesn't say that the 25% ever needs to be met.
Old 06-24-2014 | 05:57 PM
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I don't have time for a lengthy post to address each issue from the above three posts...

However, I recommend a careful reading of both the pertinent sections of the CBA as well as the entire document of the Red/Green award.

The 'snapshot' has to be taken before IOT, not DOT; so the idea is that there is a "feeding frenzy" during IOT where many of the open trips are picked up by pilots. Ideally, that means when a day - for example - has 5 reserves available, 3 required, and 2 open turn trips (making it black during IOT).. then two pilots come along during IOT and pick up those turns.. Then you still have five reserves on that day, three required, and now the system will allow for 2 "drop" requests for turns on that day as soon as DOT opens and as well for the rest of the month all else being equal (such as a reserve moving that day for another). No longer can the company increase that required reserve level to 4 or higher during normal operations.
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