Spirit of NKS
05-25-2014, 07:55 AM
#7401
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by The Juice
There is. Don't know how much good it does these days
05-26-2014, 01:16 PM
#7403
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 21
I was talking to an FO that got hired recently and he told me that he got FLL straight out of training. And that Vegas seems to be the junior base. Can some of the pilots that got hired in the past 6 month share with us how soon after IOE they got a line and which base they got a line at? I am assuming Vegas would be the fastest base to get a line. And once a pilot gets a line, is it easy to get a line that is worth about 90 hours of pay or to build up to that?
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
05-26-2014, 02:29 PM
#7404
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 765
Originally Posted by FLYINGE
I was talking to an FO that got hired recently and he told me that he got FLL straight out of training. And that Vegas seems to be the junior base. Can some of the pilots that got hired in the past 6 month share with us how soon after IOE they got a line and which base they got a line at? I am assuming Vegas would be the fastest base to get a line. And once a pilot gets a line, is it easy to get a line that is worth about 90 hours of pay or to build up to that?
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
05-26-2014, 03:35 PM
#7405
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by FLYINGE
I was talking to an FO that got hired recently and he told me that he got FLL straight out of training. And that Vegas seems to be the junior base. Can some of the pilots that got hired in the past 6 month share with us how soon after IOE they got a line and which base they got a line at? I am assuming Vegas would be the fastest base to get a line. And once a pilot gets a line, is it easy to get a line that is worth about 90 hours of pay or to build up to that?
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
Getting hours isn't hard but when you're in training for two months, the pay is bad. Once on the like you will be reserve and you will not get anything about 72. Once you get a line, you'll be too junior to enjoy swaps during initial open time. So best case is month 5 or 6 you'll be able to add red eyes to your line that was built at 74 hours to start the month.
05-26-2014, 04:16 PM
#7406
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 489
Originally Posted by FLYINGE
I was talking to an FO that got hired recently and he told me that he got FLL straight out of training. And that Vegas seems to be the junior base. Can some of the pilots that got hired in the past 6 month share with us how soon after IOE they got a line and which base they got a line at? I am assuming Vegas would be the fastest base to get a line. And once a pilot gets a line, is it easy to get a line that is worth about 90 hours of pay or to build up to that?
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
I am asking all these questions because, first I have to take a pay cut to go to Spirit and I am trying plan a budget for that.
FLL is currently the junior FO base and the base which you'll hold a line the fastest at this point in time.
Once you hold a line, the lines aren't 90hr lines. They average anywhere between 73-77 hrs, so your best bet is to try a legality/contractual conflict and trade trips to get your line credit up to where you want. I see pilots that can get up over 100 hrs of pay credit using conflicts and trip/duty rigs.
05-26-2014, 05:07 PM
#7407
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 471
Hiring slowed for the past 2 months, thus movement slowed. This should reverse and most should be able to get the base they want before training is complete.
If you are making a budget, use 72 hrs for your budget - not 90. Everyone does not get conflict pay, 150%, or 200%, so don't plan on it.
If you are making a budget, use 72 hrs for your budget - not 90. Everyone does not get conflict pay, 150%, or 200%, so don't plan on it.
05-26-2014, 06:36 PM
#7408
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 21
Originally Posted by So Wonwee
Hiring slowed for the past 2 months, thus movement slowed. This should reverse and most should be able to get the base they want before training is complete.
If you are making a budget, use 72 hrs for your budget - not 90. Everyone does not get conflict pay, 150%, or 200%, so don't plan on it.
If you are making a budget, use 72 hrs for your budget - not 90. Everyone does not get conflict pay, 150%, or 200%, so don't plan on it.
05-26-2014, 06:50 PM
#7409
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Bus FO
Posts: 316
Originally Posted by FLYINGE
Thank you all for your replies. I was thinking 2 month on training pay, 6 month on reserve pay at 72 hours, and 4 month at line pay where I can build up my pay up to 90 hours. Is that not realistic for a budget? Better of planning 72 hours at first year pay?
05-27-2014, 07:04 AM
#7410
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 193
Originally Posted by Car Ramrod
I don't think you will spend 6 months on reserve. I couldn't hold reserve in DTW if I wanted to when I finished my OE but you never know... It is not easy to get 90 hours unless you are senior enough to bid a conflict, which you won't be. That's been my experience anyway. There are a lot of others in the same boat who are trying to pay their bills on first year pay. First year pay needs to come up. Plan on 72 hrs.
Spirit first year pay is a disgrace to ALPA!
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