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Old 10-05-2014, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
Ouch! Sorry Bolt, someone else apparently remembers what happened. Revisionist history... DENIED!


On the other subject, what DID LOA 35 do for us? saved the company the expense of 2 pay cycles per year. What did we get?
The Revisionism comes from your side.

If you had proof that the SPA MEC coluded with the company to displace pilots and close a a base, you'd have taken that public year ago.

You may suspect it happened, but you've not offered proof. If it was a skit, it backfired. I truly hope that you take pleasure in that.

If you want to know what we got, track down Vince, he was happy with it.
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by skybolt View Post
Your obviously nothing more than an intentional muckraker. You can't even get the bad guy right. It was J.C.

No matter how much you want it to be so, the LOA in question was the result of the grievance process and the deal was done by our Grievance Chair and the Contract Administrator. FYI, that Grievance Chair continued in with the next MEC. He was not partisan.

The "displace the Reps" is only half right. Again, you just cant get it right, you're yanking my chain. So you get the last word. If anyone else reading gives you any credibility from here on, I won't change their mind anyway.
The FO Rep from DTW was not displaced. HE BID OUT TO MAKE CAPTAIN.
You would have to get in bed with JS now to downsize LAS. JC left. But, I'm always wrong.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt View Post
Your obviously nothing more than an intentional muckraker. You can't even get the bad guy right. It was J.C.

No matter how much you want it to be so, the LOA in question was the result of the grievance process and the deal was done by our Grievance Chair and the Contract Administrator. FYI, that Grievance Chair continued in with the next MEC. He was not partisan.

The "displace the Reps" is only half right. Again, you just cant get it right, you're yanking my chain. So you get the last word. If anyone else reading gives you any credibility from here on, I won't change their mind anyway.
The FO Rep from DTW was not displaced. HE BID OUT TO MAKE CAPTAIN.
Why do guys resort to name calling when someone disagree with you? It concerns me that you are so hateful towards your fellow pilots that actually support what our union guys are doing. And you think they should be nicer to our management. No wonder some of us think you are in bed with JS and CR and BBB...
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:37 PM
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It's really disturbing to see individuals with current ALPA positions posting trash on a public board like this. AN, SC and possibly others posting with their hand or by proxy. Shameful

Balder you are a joke to suggest skyvans would be 'in bed' with management. Why don't you explain how this line pilot would be bedding management. I can't wait to hear this.
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Old 10-06-2014, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
It's really disturbing to see individuals with current ALPA positions posting trash on a public board like this. AN, SC and possibly others posting with their hand or by proxy. Shameful

Balder you are a joke to suggest skyvans would be 'in bed' with management. Why don't you explain how this line pilot would be bedding management. I can't wait to hear this.
Sorry, that actually was a joke, sort of. A little sarcasm to stir the pot, or at least the lemonade.
I am sure it will further relax you to know, I have no ALPA position, nor have I had one in the past 6+ years. Nor have I ever worked with AN, SC, or any possible others, except maybe I have flown with them. I am just a line pilot, just like you. Unless your "statement" above is also sarcasm, why would you post it as a fact? I can't wait to hear this...
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Old 10-07-2014, 06:46 AM
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I wonder if management gets on message boards and fights amongst themselves about upcoming contract negotiations. I hope so. Id hate to be the only side in the fight that has such weakness in its phalanx
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Old 10-07-2014, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Balder View Post
Sorry, that actually was a joke, sort of. A little sarcasm to stir the pot, or at least the lemonade.
I am sure it will further relax you to know, I have no ALPA position, nor have I had one in the past 6+ years. Nor have I ever worked with AN, SC, or any possible others, except maybe I have flown with them. I am just a line pilot, just like you. Unless your "statement" above is also sarcasm, why would you post it as a fact? I can't wait to hear this...
Thats ok Balder. The 'sort of' portion of your words says it all. I didn't think you were the volunteering type. I was referring to Tine, manflex, and spiritman.
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Old 10-07-2014, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92 View Post
I wonder if management gets on message boards and fights amongst themselves about upcoming contract negotiations. I hope so. Id hate to be the only side in the fight that has such weakness in its phalanx
Of course not. They aren't a union of people with common goals. They are a ' chain of command' with no recourse for punishment for breaking rank. They need to kiss ass till they get into the stock options club. There is no debate. Just taking orders.
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Old 10-07-2014, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
Thats ok Balder. The 'sort of' portion of your words says it all. I didn't think you were the volunteering type. I was referring to Tine, manflex, and spiritman.
I am not AN or SC. I don't even know of whom you refer. Secondly, I merely pointed out that past factions of our union signed some questionable LOA's. I don't know how long you have been here but, would you like management put on the seniority list in front of you and in turn you wouldn't have to pay taxes when you Jumpseat to an international NK destination? Also, would you like the schedule of your paychecks to change for nothing? oops sorry, for "pilots to easier track their pay and clear up pay discrepancies" Would you like to help management see that a base would "work" by making a satellite base for awhile? No conflicts or vacation are honored.

I am just trying to make sure these types of things do not happen again. Nothing against you, my handle was in one of your posts and I obviously cannot speak for the other two.

verb (used without object), muckraked, muckraking.
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to search for and expose real or alleged corruption, scandal, or the like, especially in politics.

Okay I am a muckraker.

Chain jerker is not recongized by the english dictionary.

I never called anyone a name. I was having a discussion with a passionate, smart individual who took my posts a little hard. No hard feelings here.
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Old 10-07-2014, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tine View Post
I am not AN or SC. I don't even know of whom you refer. Secondly, I merely pointed out that past factions of our union signed some questionable LOA's. I don't know how long you have been here but, would you like management put on the seniority list in front of you and in turn you wouldn't have to pay taxes when you Jumpseat to an international NK destination? Also, would you like the schedule of your paychecks to change for nothing? oops sorry, for "pilots to easier track their pay and clear up pay discrepancies" Would you like to help management see that a base would "work" by making a satellite base for awhile? No conflicts or vacation are honored.

I am just trying to make sure these types of things do not happen again. Nothing against you, my handle was in one of your posts and I obviously cannot speak for the other two.

verb (used without object), muckraked, muckraking.
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to search for and expose real or alleged corruption, scandal, or the like, especially in politics.

Okay I am a muckraker.

Chain jerker is not recongized by the english dictionary.

I never called anyone a name. I was having a discussion with a passionate, smart individual who took my posts a little hard. No hard feelings here.
Sorry tine, I disagree. I read the LOA. There is no jumping of seniority. All is see is line pilots being pay protected for certain management flying and all of us being put on Gen Dec so we don't need to pay passenger taxes.

Now its a free for all with management flying out of status under the 5% rule with no pay protection for a line pilot. These guys are all walking around with 4 bars.That didn't happen under that LOA from 6 yrs ago.

As far as pay checks. WHAT? how did you guys get paid with biweekly checks when the contract rules are monthly? Why would anyone want that. Its just silly. The gain is obvious and im no accountant. Anyone want to go back to the old way?.........I didn't think so. Geeze.
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