No, you are wrong, the majority don't want this blame game, the majority want to move forward wit a better contract.

 

^ this.

I need to grab an M4 convertible already........let's hurry it up!

 

Wait. What?! They got to READ the TA BEFORE voting on it?! What a novel concept, can we do that too?

 

On another note....SAVE has been on a freefall since yesterday. At the time of this post at $64.38, down 3.7%. It dropped about 3% yesterday.
Ebola "people will stop flying" jitters?! I'm glad I have a nice amount of money invested in pharmaceuticals.

SAVE: Summary for Spirit Airlines, Inc.- Yahoo! Finance

This too:
http://www.wkrb13.com/markets/384134...by-zacks-save/

 

All the airlines are taking a hit, if anything Ebola seems like it would have more of an impact on long haul Intl stuff

 

The market in general is taking a hit. Typical pull back, nothing really to worry about.

 

Yup. Happens every year about this time...

 

Yes, but that's like saying you want clean air and water. Who doesn't want clear air and water? Who doesn't want a better contract?

Forget the blame game, let's just be logical. The NC and MEC are currently led by and directed by the same people who gave us C2010 and took us to strike to get it. C2010 gained almost nothing. Everything you think of as good in C2010 was already there in 2002 and earlier.

Let's suppose that all of your opposition goes away and the incumbent team stays in power in both the MEC and the NC. What makes you think that they will do anything different that what they did in 2003 and 2010?

You see my friend, a whole bunch of us want a great contract EVEN MORE THAN YOU. You wanna know why we get into these conflicts?, it's because you imply that if we'd just "all get along", you will get Delta plus 1.

We want you to know that past performance IS a predictor of future performance.

We've lived the disappointment of two contracts in a row where our expectations (promised by both Spirit and Spirit ALPA) were dashed by the outcome of the negotiations. We've lived through a strike that gained almost nothing, if it even did that. We've lived through being told that we'd be in "no mans land" if we voted the TA down, and then found out years later that the reason was that our MEC and NC signed a 6 page long "back to work" agreement that effectively ratified the contract and left us no realistic choice.

So please, stop assuming that you're going to get a great contract if we all just "stop the blame game". The "blame game" isn't what's stopping you from getting a great contract.

We're trying to be the watchmen on the wall and sound the alarm.

 

What part of Orbit's post demeaned the other side?

Everything he wrote is truthful. Does the truth hurt? Is the truth demeaning?

 

For someone that wasn't here in 2003 or 2010 please explain to me how the same MEC is in office. I know for a fact FLL is different. Aren't these two year terms? How is it the same negotiating committee? I'm pretty sure at least one of them wasn't even here in 2010.

Btw I still want to know who this classless excuse for a pilot called spiritman is.