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Old 09-10-2014 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearthrower
Well the bad list includes after firing the "Old Guard" instructors giving slots to two of the 109 status Reps which was a little hard to take. Then he changed the block-out time from door close to wheel roll and took the 4 days off in August of 2008. JC as an honorable man? Please save that honk for somebody who wasn't here during his rein. Ask anybody who was around for it and they won't wax so longingly for his return. Oh also forgot the fuel savings plan which caused 3 fuel emergency's the first week. Any doubts ask his old buddy's at North West they mostly hated the guy. Oh let us not forget the closure of the DTW domicile while in bargaining to remove the council 018 rep's who where not given council bypass by the MEC at the time to just close down the domicile, which they never did...

Oh he was a friggin peach!!!!!!
JC threw out the old instructor corps in Jan of 06. A full YEAR later a couple of union volunteers took instructor positions.

In between those events, a recall was put on the agenda for the fall 109 meeting. This recall, requested by an ex CP, was defeated by the members of SPA 109 by the not insignificant margin of 100 to 13.

AFTER seeing this level of support, the SPA 109 reps took training dept jobs. You DTW people might have had disagreements with the FLL reps, but their constituents quote obviously did not.

OBTW, it's "reign" not "rein". A "rein" is used to control a horse.

And, I'm "joe average" pilot, why did I never run short on fuel?

OBTW #2. I turned down the training dept position. Look where that got me Where's the love man?

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Old 09-10-2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Orbit
Like I said, no fan of Carlson but let's get the facts straight.

1. Pre Carlson no union sympathizers could get near the training dept. Now it's the norm. Everyone seems to be happy.
2. Wheel roll was always the way the contract was written ( actually moving under own power for flight). Nothing to do with doors closing. I miss it too but Carlson changed nothing.
3. I didn't appreciate the fuel squeeze but I just asked for more. If you're afraid to ask you shouldn't be PIC.
4. WARN act was given for worst case scenario. Flying moved South. DTW pilots populated the FLL base and voted in their candidate. That's the business.

It's ancient history. Why are we bringing it up?
"We're" bringing it up because it's election season. Right/wrong go out the window; it's all about gaining/holding power.
Old 09-10-2014 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
... Right/wrong go out the window; it's all about gaining/holding power.
Which one of the clowns in this circus are you calling out with this comment? Because to me seems like it applies to all of the above
Old 09-10-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TTOCSMCC
Which one of the clowns in this circus are you calling out with this comment? Because to me seems like it applies to all of the above
From where do you see the negative campaign?
Old 09-10-2014 | 08:16 PM
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Carlson was no friend of Spirit Pilots. He

-cancelled vacations in mass
-gave no warning to the MEC prior to sending out WARN notice
-in July 2008 asked the MEC to delay the bids and rerun the lines to see if he could lay off less pilots, only to use the delay to rerun the lines without the four days off that took ALPA months of arbitration to win back

The man was Bad News
Old 09-10-2014 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoutbrewer
I think it was 2 days after he and Ben said DTW was safe that he sent the WARN act notices to the NMB at 5:15 on a Friday night. There's good and bad with every management team and I think his strength was pitting us against one another.
That is essentially it.
Old 09-10-2014 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
"We're" bringing it up because it's election season. Right/wrong go out the window; it's all about gaining/holding power.
Do you understand how badly JC weakened us as a pilot group? Or do you disagree with that premise all together? Hope that's a fair question.
Old 09-11-2014 | 04:17 AM
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Do we get a discount with Verizon or ATT for wireless service as a Spirit employee?
Old 09-11-2014 | 04:41 AM
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Yes

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Old 09-11-2014 | 05:32 AM
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Do we get a discount with Verizon or ATT for wireless service as a Spirit employee?
ATT. But the iPhone 6 is not available for Cowboy fans until your defense improves and until your team hires a GM
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