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09-09-2014 | 09:28 AM
#7962
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No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
Btw, I did not know that Bowland/Robinson was running, haven't seen anything in writing from them. Curious what kind of platform they are running on, what they would do different than their predecessors and/or the other people running.
09-09-2014 | 10:13 AM
#7963
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Originally Posted by Sailor
That what I mean Juice, but sometimes I wonder if some of my co-workers want a "your own contract dealing" a la JB job. Meaning NO UNION AT ALL.
Because it doesn't matter who or how they run it, they will always be unhappy with it, nothing will ever be good enough.
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
Originally Posted by Sailor
That what I mean Juice, but sometimes I wonder if some of my co-workers want a "your own contract dealing" a la JB job. Meaning NO UNION AT ALL.
Because it doesn't matter who or how they run it, they will always be unhappy with it, nothing will ever be good enough.
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
I don't know about these guys you are talking about, but one of them was very outspoken how evil , crappy and communist ALPA is. So my question was, "want another union?, no union? Or what? " crickets!!! Effing Crickets is what I got.
So, you are wrong, some of the most outspoken against the union would rather have none, as a matter of fact back in 2010-2011 a few mention winds of a spirit pilot union.
All I want is for ALL of us to retire HERE and make tge road for new pilots, NOT supporting our union and only criticizing everything they do isn't gonna help, it doesn't matter who you bring to the party.
09-09-2014 | 10:58 AM
#7964
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From: A320 CA
It looks like we will start international flying at IAH next year.
Spirit Airlines files to serve Mexico from Houston Bush Intercontinental | World Airline News
Spirit Airlines files to serve Mexico from Houston Bush Intercontinental | World Airline News
09-09-2014 | 11:22 AM
#7965
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From: A320 Left
I don't know about these guys you are talking about, but one of them was very outspoken how evil , crappy and communist ALPA is. So my question was, "want another union?, no union? Or what? " crickets!!! Effing Crickets is what I got.
So, you are wrong, some of the most outspoken against the union would rather have none, as a matter of fact back in 2010-2011 a few mention winds of a spirit pilot union.
All I want is for ALL of us to retire HERE and make tge road for new pilots, NOT supporting our union and only criticizing everything they do isn't gonna help, it doesn't matter who you bring to the party.
So, you are wrong, some of the most outspoken against the union would rather have none, as a matter of fact back in 2010-2011 a few mention winds of a spirit pilot union.
All I want is for ALL of us to retire HERE and make tge road for new pilots, NOT supporting our union and only criticizing everything they do isn't gonna help, it doesn't matter who you bring to the party.
09-09-2014 | 11:39 AM
#7966
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Let me get this straight? You guys want a former management/instructor guy who has been very anti-union,anti-ALPA for the last several years to represent you? I don't think that is a good idea but I'm just sayin'
09-09-2014 | 12:19 PM
#7967
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From: A320 F.O.
It looks like we will start international flying at IAH next year.
Spirit Airlines files to serve Mexico from Houston Bush Intercontinental | World Airline News
Spirit Airlines files to serve Mexico from Houston Bush Intercontinental | World Airline News
09-09-2014 | 12:55 PM
#7969
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But it was a nice try for your first post.
09-09-2014 | 12:59 PM
#7970
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Hopefully someone kicks that station in the a$$ if were going to increase service, maybe starting with Tex the manager--or whatever his friggin name is. It has to be one of, if not the worst station, in terms of basics (3 marshallers WITH WANDS, power, and air). So simple a caveman can do it, but leave it to IAH to screw it up. But hey, Tex will meet you half way down the concourse to let you know he needs someone in the flightdeck to fuel
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