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Old 09-08-2014 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Having ALPA* and their pack of "Not ready for prime-time" attorneys sending an "information request" could very well be intimidating(and if you don't think it's a threat, enjoy Fantasy Land). Whoever ran that site didn't collect membership fees and there was no advertising, so they would need to pay for legal representation themselves. ALPA legal may not be the brightest organization on the planet, but they are well funded.

*All references to ALPA, or any part therof, are my own personal opinion, so please don't sue me. Your mileage may vary. Please do not read this post without first consulting your physician, and please stop reading if you feel faint or dizzy.



Hard to show you a smoking gun when SPA ALPA financials are burried deeper than Jimmy Hoffa. Fringe Element? I think I'll use that for my screen name on the new board, thanks.
Hey Ram. If you sign up with two usernames you will be able to have a conversation with yourself. (just f..in with ya')
Old 09-08-2014 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I'm assuming he is emphasizing NON Union and NON Union ran in order to distance that forum from ALPA, to prevent a redo of the last forum.

Non Union as to mean Non union affiliated or sponsored.
That what I mean Juice, but sometimes I wonder if some of my co-workers want a "your own contract dealing" a la JB job. Meaning NO UNION AT ALL.

Because it doesn't matter who or how they run it, they will always be unhappy with it, nothing will ever be good enough.
Old 09-08-2014 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Normann
It is an all "me me me me" crowd.
You mean it's a bunch of pilots.
Old 09-08-2014 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
That what I mean Juice, but sometimes I wonder if some of my co-workers want a "your own contract dealing" a la JB job. Meaning NO UNION AT ALL.

Because it doesn't matter who or how they run it, they will always be unhappy with it, nothing will ever be good enough.
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.

I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
Old 09-08-2014 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.

I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
Why would Andy not want the interim position? Serious question.
Old 09-08-2014 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Normann
Hey Ram. If you sign up with two usernames you will be able to have a conversation with yourself. (just f..in with ya')
That's ok, look at all the capital sunk into MSNBC, nobody pays attention to them either.
Old 09-08-2014 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Why would Andy not want the interim position? Serious question.
I believe he has other important matters to attend to until the of the year. And as far as I know, he's been planning to run for the March 2015 term start date for quite a while. Tony's resignation was a last minute thing and Graham expressed a strong willingness to run for Interim. Andy is cool with that, as he'll also be gearing up to speed in the interim and working with Graham for a smooth transition.

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Old 09-08-2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer
I believe he has other important matters to attend to until the of the year. And as far as I know, he's been planning to run for the March 2015 term start date for quite a while. Tony's resignation was a last minute thing and Graham expressed a strong willingness to run for Interim. Andy is cool with that, as he'll also be gearing up to speed in the interim and working with Graham for a smooth transition.
It'll be an interesting election for sure. Ryan P is my preferred candidate, but it's encouraging that more pilots are showing an interest in the position.
Old 09-08-2014 | 03:02 PM
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I must be a Kool-Aid drinker because the F/As on the SWA flight I just J/S on couldn't understand "why on earth" I would stay at Spirit. Apparently she wasn't around the industry when SWA wasn't so great, lol
Old 09-08-2014 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
That's ok, look at all the capital sunk into MSNBC, nobody pays attention to them either.
MSNBC. The only news network with more letters in their name than viewers...
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