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Old 08-01-2015, 06:53 AM
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All My Pilots will be back after these messages...

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Old 08-01-2015, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
I really have no idea how you guys went on strike. Can't say I've seen a group as fractured as this one. I had no idea this was even happening. I still don't even know what article 8 is. Ever since the recall of the last chairman there has been this constant back and forth of new gaurd vs old guard. You guys do know that these are all unpaid positions, right?
http://youtu.be/0SXBZfzc1Dc
What exactly are you fighting about? Let's work towards a common goal and a common enemy guys.
Unpaid? Hardly, wait till you see all the budgets and trip drops since 2010 when the old MEC stopped following the bylaws and publishing it. These guys were paid handsomely and got holidays off. I guess word is already getting out on how much or how little some of them worked for us. Paul H, got a sweet payday last year from our dues, 77k I believe? There is almost 1300 of us now, and the same 10 names keep trying to hold us back, this takes up so much time and resource fighting these same individuals each week. I want a contract yesterday, but these few people constantly try to drag down anyone that is not in lock step with their hard core socialist union mentality.
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:15 AM
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Thats funny. For months you have been cheerleading this Article VIII behind the scenes but NOW when your boys lose their little coup it's suddenly time to .....move ON. Where were you last month?
Everything comes to an end, I moved on.

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Old 08-01-2015, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Audi2000 View Post
Unpaid? Hardly, wait till you see all the budgets and trip drops since 2010 when the old MEC stopped following the bylaws and publishing it. These guys were paid handsomely and got holidays off. I guess word is already getting out on how much or how little some of them worked for us. Paul H, got a sweet payday last year from our dues, 77k I believe? There is almost 1300 of us now, and the same 10 names keep trying to hold us back, this takes up so much time and resource fighting these same individuals each week. I want a contract yesterday, but these few people constantly try to drag down anyone that is not in lock step with their hard core socialist union mentality.
I see my reps flying all the time and answering calls and emails on their own time for free. If trips are dropped it's to do specific union business that conflicts with your regular line. The negotiating committee should be busy enough right now to have most or all of their trips dropped but they would be the exception, not the rule. You don't just drop trips and sit at home.

This constant power grab is getting tiresome to the rest of us. I don't see the point of bickering over being a MEC officer or a representative. Those people don't have power over anything and are working for free. I'm glad we have people with a drive to serve but fighting over it seems silly. The line pilots have all the power. If you crave power then bid your line, fly your line, attend the meetings, and vote.
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Old 08-01-2015, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post

This constant power grab is getting tiresome to the rest of us.
You too? Getting tired after the coup failure but while Ackerman and Leonard were being dragged through the mud you were basically ok? Hypocrite
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Old 08-01-2015, 08:17 AM
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Make yourself standing available? Latest email from JS, more issues it seems. Not me, I'm sitting at home enjoying a cold one today.

Fly the contract, fly safe, stay strong.
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Old 08-01-2015, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
I see my reps flying all the time and answering calls and emails on their own time for free. If trips are dropped it's to do specific union business that conflicts with your regular line. The negotiating committee should be busy enough right now to have most or all of their trips dropped but they would be the exception, not the rule. You don't just drop trips and sit at home.

This constant power grab is getting tiresome to the rest of us. I don't see the point of bickering over being a MEC officer or a representative. Those people don't have power over anything and are working for free. I'm glad we have people with a drive to serve but fighting over it seems silly. The line pilots have all the power. If you crave power then bid your line, fly your line, attend the meetings, and vote.
"I don't see the point of bickering over being a MEC officer or a representative. Those people don't have power over anything and are working for free."

Are you freeking stupid? or just up to the MEC's belly button in your attempt to kiss arse?

"Those people DON'T HAVE POWER OVER ANYTHING"?????????

They have ALL THE POWER OVER EVERYTHING.!!!!!!!

No wonder they get by with what they do, we're collectively stupid. Geez
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:00 AM
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The help email is out...I'm sure JA and all his little free relief helpers will be out in full force shortly....
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by InTrail View Post
You too? Getting tired after the coup failure but while Ackerman and Leonard were being dragged through the mud you were basically ok? Hypocrite
Aside from the vague but constant bickering on here, the email yesterday was the first I've heard of it. I don't even know what article 8 is. I'm not on anyone's side. I want us to be unified and secure the contract we deserve.
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro View Post
"I don't see the point of bickering over being a MEC officer or a representative. Those people don't have power over anything and are working for free."

Are you freeking stupid? or just up to the MEC's belly button in your attempt to kiss arse?

"Those people DON'T HAVE POWER OVER ANYTHING"?????????

They have ALL THE POWER OVER EVERYTHING.!!!!!!!

No wonder they get by with what they do, we're collectively stupid. Geez
Last I checked my LEC reps work at my direction and the MEC chairman and negotiating committee work at their direction
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