Spirit of NKS
1,500 hours for one group of applicants, there's no telling the flight time requirement for the rest.. I believe the Dbag requirement is more informal, but they do a solid job screening for this.
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.
What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!
Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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He never once mentioned labor costs as a direct correlation in the ability for majors to compete with us on ticket price. In your mud slinging you seem to forget the sacrifice 400 pilots of this company made in 2010 for the future of not only this pilot group but the collective bargaining at all ALPA carriers. When fuel costs decrease at the level we are seeing, it allows the majors to increase downward pressure on competition, or come up with hair-brained schemes to better compete (Delta base fare). Then, just like Song and Ted were over 10 years ago, the next time crisis hits they will be part of the record books.
The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.
What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!
Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.
What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!
Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
He never once mentioned labor costs as a direct correlation in the ability for majors to compete with us on ticket price. In your mud slinging you seem to forget the sacrifice 400 pilots of this company made in 2010 for the future of not only this pilot group but the collective bargaining at all ALPA carriers. When fuel costs decrease at the level we are seeing, it allows the majors to increase downward pressure on competition, or come up with hair-brained schemes to better compete (Delta base fare). Then, just like Song and Ted were over 10 years ago, the next time crisis hits they will be part of the record books.
The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.
What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!
Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
The money will be there in our next contract. So will all the work rules we have fought to preserve, so we can actually have lives and interests outside of the cockpit. Ask one of us what the 4 days off are worth. Or line bidding. Or the transition. Or our healthcare options. There's plenty of work to be done in the next contract, but leave that fight to us.
What has your union's negotiating strategy done for you? Congratulations, you've voted down ONE TA in company history. Quite a bit of chest beating for the same pilots that gave up what they did to "save" the airline in bankruptcy. Way to help the company keep labor costs low!!
Do us all of favor and go back to your golf cart in peach tree city and continue to boast to all of your neighbors about how great being a Delta pilot is and how the MD88 is a "real airplane." Then gladly send me a PM the 1 time a year you get west of the Mississippi River and we can have a beer and I can prove to you in person, that I am more educated than you and plenty of your 1000 hour Delta wonder coworkers. Until then, kindly shove it
Boost is Life
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: In the Garage
Posts: 98
"Don't you want to do something productive with your life????" SMH
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 320*****
Posts: 487
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
So he went from Skywest to Delta like what 2 years ago and now he is giving us an education about unions, labor hostile airlines, etc.
How would you have done things differently working for a 30 airplane airline that just barely escaped bankruptcy a year or two prior our TA? All while the nation's economy just went through a major recession. Did Delta have top contract back when it had 30 airplanes? The whole freaking nation had to finance your awesome airline in 2001. You are welcome by the way. If this does not ring a bell it is because you were in high school still.
You must have tremendous experience. So Dudley... please tell us this: What have you personally done to achieve the last DL contract that you are so proud of? ... huh? ... do I hear "Nothing"? That is right! I forgot. You were not even on the property. You were not even a union pilot. You worked for a union busting airline that has cannibalized ASA, Expressjet and whoever else. What a record!
Please stop posting. You are embarrassing real DL guys.
Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
P.S. I have a Masters Degree; care to tell us about your education?
Last edited by Green Giant; 08-03-2015 at 06:58 PM.
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Displaced
Posts: 74
He's a ball licker. Moving on.
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Way to keep labor costs low, congratulations! You are a shareholders dream! I'm happy when the higher paying airline gains market share, this obviously isn't the spirit pilot's rational. I guess that's what you get when you don't need an education to get hired there.
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