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Old 08-01-2015 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Wow, really guys? Posting private emails on a web forum. embarrassing, you guys are professionals, act like it.
They wouldnt have cc'd 20 people if it was private. We are entitled to know. They work for us. Thanks for posting.
Old 08-01-2015 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Orbit
They wouldnt have cc'd 20 people if it was private. We are entitled to know. They work for us. Thanks for posting.
Well..........CCing 20 people definitely isn't keeping it private, lol
Old 08-01-2015 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Wow, really guys? Posting private emails on a web forum. embarrassing, you guys are professionals, act like it.
Little bit. You insulted him a little bit. You were a little out of line yourself.
Old 08-01-2015 | 02:43 PM
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Old 08-01-2015 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
Is this a thread for Spirit pilots to talk about goings on at Spirit Airlines, or a FRICKIN SOAP OPERA!!! Please, please, please enough with the he said, she said, whining, *****ing and moaning about what he did, about what he said, about how he is, just stop it. I think I speak for everyone when I say this is a new company, this is a new contract and this is a new majority of pilots, the old quibbling is and should be done with.
If this is a new contract for a new majority of pilots, why are the negotiators part of the old majority? Ackerman may have made mistakes, but he's so far ahead of the Master Chairman he replaced it's not even a contest.

Here's the way I see it. The trouble we're observing is nothing more than the now minority trying to hold on to power. Only one Status rep of six has been here longer than eight years. He, the DTW Capt Representative, has only one ally on the Master Council - the DTW FO Representative. That FO rep is the only person with less than 8 years who supports the old majority. All of the other 4 MEC members are NEW BLOOD! They're just trying to work in our best interests, the fighting is coming from the old guys. Don't get mad at JA, he's not the one who tried to blow up the union with Section 8 charges.
Old 08-01-2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GeauxPro
Don't get mad at JA, he's not the one who tried to blow up the union with Section 8 charges.
Apparently he is the one that signed off on CBA relief in the hopes of getting something on the back end. I haven't seen anything definitive so that's what I'm assuming. Didn't work, and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would know that when dealing with a corporate entity, get it in writing first. We will see a TA for C2020 before anything for the relief.

As for the article 8... It is not against the CBL to be a moron, so yes, nothing to see here.

AND, I will throw it out one more time... The MEC chair should NOT also be a status rep. That's not how the system is set up. There is supposed to be a buffer between the decision makers and the front man. We don't have that, and that is a tactical deficiency.
Old 08-01-2015 | 05:07 PM
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Posting that email correspondence was sort of....low class?
Old 08-01-2015 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
Posting that email correspondence was sort of....low class?
You are making some assumptions that are probably not accurate.
Old 08-01-2015 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Android
You are making some assumptions that are probably not accurate.

Eh.... I didn't make any assumptions. Posting that email correspondence on a public forum is out of line. (In my opinion)
Old 08-01-2015 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Apparently he is the one that signed off on CBA relief in the hopes of getting something on the back end. I haven't seen anything definitive so that's what I'm assuming. Didn't work, and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would know that when dealing with a corporate entity, get it in writing first. We will see a TA for C2020 before anything for the relief.


The MEC chair should NOT also be a status rep. .
So if they offer you 10k would that be ok for you?

I agree about the status rep, that should be changed soon?
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