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Old 09-14-2014 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Kind of hypocritical here. You assume, right or wrong, who Spiritman is and defame DP based on Spiritman's comments.
This has already been established. But he won't sign his name to the accusations towards Cole. Period. To the next fact now....

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Old 09-14-2014 | 03:15 PM
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Let them keep the heat on me, I am only going for LEC Secretary Treasurer, I don't even have a say if elected in most issues, nor do I get to vote much. The anger directed at me is due to me opening the books previously in a recall attempt to make our membership aware of abuse of ALPA trip drops, they know I will do it again to force them to be accountable, including myself. So this has really made me wonder what is being hidden at this time? Like I said, I don't even get a real vote or say in things as a Treasurer, but man these guys give me way more credit than I deserve. I think they are actually doing more campaigning for us, than we are. By the way, I am not rich, I wish I was. Maybe someday.
Old 09-14-2014 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Yes, I agree. All this infighting as we get close to opening up negotiations. Wrong time for us to be divided as a group.
...the next fact is that despite political divisions here, 98% voted for the strike and 100% walked out on June 12, 2010. We are all aware of who the adversary really is. There are disagreements within our ranks and many shameful "low blows". But when push comes to shove we are all ALPA.
Old 09-14-2014 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer
...the next fact is that despite political divisions here, 98% voted for the strike and 100% walked out on June 12, 2010. We are all aware of who the adversary really is. There are disagreements within our ranks and many shameful "low blows". But when push comes to shove we are all ALPA.
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I agree!
Old 09-14-2014 | 03:36 PM
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Audi2000 you made your first post just a few days ago in which you revealed yourself as Cole Brantley. In the interest of honesty and transparency, what was your APC handle prior to 9/11/2014, or are we to believe that was your first day here?
Old 09-14-2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TTOCSMCC
Audi2000 you made your first post just a few days ago in which you revealed yourself as Cole Brantley. In the interest of honesty and transparency, what was your APC handle prior to 9/11/2014, or are we to believe that was your first day here?
This is my first and only login to APC. I did lurk, only reading on occasion. I was alerted to some serious slander against my name by one of the other posters on here and decided it was time to finally get on here and make sure my side was heard. I don't know if it is possible for the moderator to back me on this as I give full authorization to him to release that info (he can verify that this IP has always just watched and never had a login). I was Audi2000 on the previous spiritpilotboard as well, but again I did not have a lot of time to be on there either. I hope this is the last board I have to sign up for, I am tired of checking these message boards.
Old 09-14-2014 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
Dilbert is the Vice Chair of 109? I wouldn't have guessed that.
Yeah that's pretty funny. Where's 109? Lol
Old 09-14-2014 | 06:08 PM
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Just remember, hope and change isn't always what it's cracked up to be. Current president of USA is a prime example...
Old 09-14-2014 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
Just remember, hope and change isn't always what it's cracked up to be. Current president of USA is a prime example...
And here's where I get in trouble with the in crowd.

I think the only way we achieve the gains that most people expect IS to change the way SPA ALPA does the pilots business. The current philosophy gave us C2003 which was negotiated in six weeks so as to give Jacob Schorr the concessions he demanded inexchange for "growth". We gave up conflict bidding and our calender day guarantee in that contract. The same team rode the opposite strategy to a drawn out negotiation and a strike in 2010 to give away time and a half OT. One of the supposed big gains in C2010 was "an expedited arbitration process". Since that "gain", SPA ALPA has obviously chosen the arbitration process as our SOP. C2010 also gave us the "red/green" fiasco, as far as we know "red/green" is still in arbitration. So we gave up something to get an expedited arbitration process (don't doubt that we gave up something, DP is famous for stating "what are you going to give up to get xxxx", so he obviously accepts that something must be given to get and they totally advertised "expedited arbitrations" as a "get") so we got the arbitration process and we end up in an arbitration quagmire over "red/green" and no telling what else. Go figure!

Yes, change just might be in order.

And, as an aside, almost none of the good stuff in our contract came from C2003 or C2010.
Five/four off between blocks of work? Pre dates the union drive.
No JA? Before my time, but I'm pretty sure it dates from C1999.
Three hour reserve report? LOA from 2006.
Commute clause? LOA from 2007.
You think red/green was a win? It actually gave up a (weak) staffing formula to get it and it's still unresolved.

I'm sure guys like Ramrod can think of more.

Go Bears!
Old 09-14-2014 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Hyperbole much? "Demanding the attack-ees stand down" I think I hardly demanded anything, more so pointed out the irony of something.

And I have hardly "picked sides." Perhaps you feel the best course of action is to go toe to toe with an anonymous poster named "Spiritman," not realizing that all he wants is for you to take the troll bait and go back and forth with him. The anonymous poster came on here and posted very strong accusations against Cole and Cole himself replied to those accusations. That should be the end of it, right? You do realize that having a mud slinging competition with an anonymous poster named "Spiritman" hardly does anything to further the cause of trying to help Cole and the others get elected, right?


I'm not going toe to toe with Spiritman, I going toe to toe with guys who view any dissent as disloyalty and those who accept negativism from only one side.
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