You will not upgrade here if hired today. You are coming for the contract just like if you went to sw. Ours sucks theirs does not.

 

First year is $1,098 on 1st and $1,500 on the 15th.

 

There are two ways to attract new hires. Raise the pay or drop the mins. Guess which one is free. 4,000 to 2,000 = problem solved. Lots of RJ FOs will come because let's face it, it's still better than a regional.

 

You're right, but once these RJ FO's figure out they'll never upgrade here with the current order book, a good chunk will figure it's better to stay put and take their flow or preferential interview at a legacy (if they've got one.)

When I left my regional 3 years ago, this was a great spot. Hardly anyone else was hiring and a 2.5 yr upgrade was hard to beat. It's amazing how things change in 3 short years.

 

I just got the email for a Schmoozefest in Seattle later this month ("we reviewed your app and want to talk to you, etc.") and was wondering what the outlook is. I'm currently at a regional and will be commuting from SMF to wherever, and right now my commute is decent. Just hit second year pay at my regional, so not as bad, I guess, but I'm looking to move on, of course. Background is mostly mil (~3k, IP time, now 500 at the regional).

I see a ton of contractual strife in your main thread, so that's a little disheartening, but it's got to be better than here, right? Maybe commuting to LAS? Shorter reserve time? Pointers appreciated, thanks!

G5

 

This is still a decent place to work. I have no real complaints other than needing to be compensated properly. We will get a better contract, but sometimes it takes a few headaches and time. Anyone that has been in this business long enough knows that. People like to complain a lot on APC, so you just have to read between the lines, and skip over much of the BS. One of the big draws to Spirit was the fast upgrade, but it is slowly increasing past the 2 1/2 year point. The legacy carriers are seeing fairly quick upgrades also right now. If you are young enough, then perhaps the legacy is the way to go. It all depends on what you want out of an aviation career. Some folks want the long-haul, international, wide body flying. Some just want to be part of a legacy carrier, and all that goes with it. Others just want a decent place to work, be compensated properly, fly decent equipment, and work with nice folks. I like working here. Personally, I'll fly a Cessna 172 or a Piper Arrow if I get paid enough. Good luck.

 

Maybe. VX has had a relatively long upgrade for a LCC since about 2013, but newhires have always come here. Our pay is better than NK but still not close to the legacies. Even without a quick upgrade, I think guys will come to the LCCs. Better schedules, work rules, A320 type, and just to escape the regional world in general.

 

I also got an email for Schmoozefest in Seattle. Is this part of the interview process?

 

Wow... That's take home to fly a bus?

 

You can thank our POS Union for negotiating those fine rates