Originally Posted by dfwflyboy

Most of the Legacies and all the regionals run sims 24 hours. once Spirit gets large enough to run classes of 50+. Sims will be 24 hours like everyone else

Originally Posted by The Juice

1) Other airlines don't have the rushed training footprint that Spirit does

2) Dont agree with the 24 hour sims and classes of 50+. Growth is now decreasing from this point on “We do not expect to repeat a 30% growth rate in the future, but we are comfortable with a 15%-20% [annual growth] range,” Fornaro. And we are getting a new sim in DFW and possibly another one in ORD, allowing more sim slots for pilots. So classes of 50+ essentially means attrition is at a point of operational collapse (fingers crossed)

Short of a new contract, every sim that goes on motion after midnight is being done so by the student allowing it to happen.

So again I suggest to new hire pilots that they dont agree to do the midnight sims. Stay in the training footprint and allow you to be positive space flown to and from, hotels paid for, and miss ACY completely while you accrue seniority in training. You still get first year pay after 90 days, its in the contract and the pay difference between hitting the line earlier is not that big of a difference when you factor in commuting costs to ACY while you try and hold your base of preference. Especially if you are thinking of bailing, dont risk a pink slip on your record because you are trying to learn V1 cuts (the three of four you will see total before your ride) at 3am.

Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin

An Ord sim is news to me and I believe everyone else in the training dept.

Originally Posted by Aviatormar

Silly question, you guys use navy for your pants and ties, is that correct? I have some money I need to empty out of my uniform bank

Originally Posted by Aviatormar

Silly question, you guys use navy for your pants and ties, is that correct? I have some money I need to empty out of my uniform bank

Originally Posted by Aviatormar

Silly question, you guys use navy for your pants and ties, is that correct? I have some money I need to empty out of my uniform bank

Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin

Yes but it's very dark and not easy to match. If you just get your own dark blue tie and pants no one will notice. If you get one of our ties and try to match it, not so much.

Originally Posted by Ed Force One

If you're an ALPA member, log on and get your free ALPA tie. It can be any of the colors because it's Union and they can't tell you not to wear it. (Or so I've been told.) They are much higher quality and better looking than any of the ties available from our Low Tier vendor.