My interwebs reports that a UM student that was hyperventilating and cursed at a Spirit F/A that wouldn't let her move to an unoccupied window seat and was subsequently kicked off the flight has decided a lawsuit against Spirit is in order for discriminating against her Muslim faith.

University of Michigan student kicked off Spirit Airlines flight files discrimination complaint - CBS News

Most troubling part of this story is she claims there were "a bunch of drunk passengers" on her flight making the situation more tense and humiliating than it had to be.....

I found that to be startling.... drunk people actually fly on Spirit?

 

Can most new hires expect to hold DFW if wanted fairly soon after training? Any new rumors on an IAH base this year?

 

12 year captain pay at dos was 143.30 which is the apples to apples comparison

What was the 12 year pay at the airlines you mentioned? I know Usair was around $130 as the worst and Continental was about $170 if I recall correctly. Not sure where the others sat but I can tell you the spirit pay wasn't winning any awards. By the time the $185 rates hit pay checks everyone had renegotiated so we never were the top of anything. Year 12 is actually still only $169.70.

It's a complete myth the contract 2010 was ever industry leading in pay. Don't even get me started on SCOPE, LTD, or retirement and how a match is hurting us. We have never led in any of these categories.

Everyone should know that United and American negotiate again in just three years in 2019. United will be paying 12 year Airbus captains $258.25 and 6 year captains $246.64 (how that for slope) and 6 year fos $160.82 and 12 year fos $176.39. All of them will also be getting 16% of everything they make (capped at $53k not $18k like us) put into their retirement accounts. Also getting an unknown profit sharing check too if profits continue.

Where will we be in January 2019? If we have a contract how many years will be left on it. Will we have numbers that beat what United has as they re-enter negotiations? What will delta have negotiated in the mean time? united has "me too" with them. Where will southwest be? My guess is we will be playing back the mistakes of contract 2010 again. I think when delta gets a contract we will be seeing near $300 narrow body captains and over $400 widebody captains. I sure hope we aren't sitting there in 2019 with 3 years left on our contract and another 3+ to negotiate saying, "man $180 4th yr capt and $240 12 year capt at dos+4 and a 9% match and 3% defined contribution didn't look so bad when we signed it.

If we think the bar got raised a lot this time I have a feeling in the middle of our next contract it going even higher while we sit waiting again. Let's not let that happen. We need to settle for nothing short of HUGE at this point.

 

Some people have too much self respect to do it sober.

 

So what's the best way to leave here?

Thinking of using personal vacation days for the rest of the month. Will short and long term sick be paid out? Or the other way around call in sick to cash that bank out and vacation is paid out on last paycheck?

These banks are well earned and deserve to be used!

I assume we only get paid for what we fly and not the full month guarantee.

 

Where ya going?

 

Just came across this on the AA/USAirways thread.

This is "average compensation", does this really include F/Os? , I wonder what ours is? Probably sub $120,000 if you include all of our F/Os Pretty sad when the average NJ State Trooper can easily pull in $180,000.00 and here we as Professional Airline pilots are struggling to break 85k as F/Os and need to be top of the scale to to make $200k as Captains.

 

I bet our average is right around $100k. Wow!

Maybe median actually. Average could actually be a five figure number. Flew a full 321 yesterday with 235 souls. We need to go huge!!!

 

Like every flight out of ACY, I get .56c per pax per hour to fly it it!, lol

 

Looking at this chart literally made me nauseous.