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Old 03-13-2016 | 09:58 AM
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I actually have no desire to "stick it" to management. I even respect how hard of a job it is to run an airline. I am not qualified to do their job so I rarely criticize. However I along with many others have applied and if given the opportunity to be hired at a legacy I would politely turn in my 2 weeks notice and be on my way. 1 year ago I would not have dreamed of saying that. I'm not alone in this thought and what if rather see is a new fair contract and we could all just be one big happy family. Not looking good for that though
Old 03-13-2016 | 10:09 AM
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It's got absolutely nothing to do with sticking it to management. It's about what's good for me. There are more opportunities now at legacy carriers that are to good not to at least try.
Old 03-13-2016 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
Here's my point, you guys really want to stick it to management?


Old 03-13-2016 | 10:20 AM
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Remember for those that think bankruptcy is dramatic and far fetched. If you have all these planes on order and growth plans, how will these magical things occur without pilots?!? Does Spirit Airlines say "just kidding" to its shareholders or is there a way to restructure by legal means? I'm a little out of my element here but I think that requires chapter 11 if you can't fulfill your obligations to your creditors. Give it 3-4 years without a contract and thats what's on the table. Any other chess move on managements behalf like a merger or something sinister that buys them time only worsens their position in the long run. If I played chess I'd says management has no move here other than $$$
Old 03-13-2016 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
Remember for those that think bankruptcy is dramatic and far fetched. If you have all these planes on order and growth plans, how will these magical things occur without pilots?!? Does Spirit Airlines say "just kidding" to its shareholders or is there a way to restructure by legal means? I'm a little out of my element here but I think that requires chapter 11 if you can't fulfill your obligations to your creditors. Give it 3-4 years without a contract and thats what's on the table. Any other chess move on managements behalf like a merger or something sinister that buys them time only worsens their position in the long run. If I played chess I'd says management has no move here other than $$$

I watched what has transpired at Republic and see this becoming
RAH #2.
Old 03-13-2016 | 10:32 AM
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I watched what has transpired at Republic and see this becoming
RAH #2.
Well the difference is our company has the ability to pay us and ensure it doesn't turn into RAH # 2
Old 03-13-2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by A320ULCC
I watched what has transpired at Republic and see this becoming
RAH #2.
I'm sure you got bent over hard at RAH, I know lots of guys did, but the airlines are completely different in their goals. Beford's sole reason to buy F9 was to debt shift losses to F9 then drive it straight into liquidation. Remember it only take raising the fairs a buck a seat per hour to get all that we are asking for!
Old 03-13-2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Well the difference is our company has the ability to pay us and ensure it doesn't turn into RAH # 2
I am more or less talking about recruitment and the quality of the candidates that will be attracted to this place.
Old 03-13-2016 | 11:25 AM
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You guys keep going on about not finding pilots. That's not the case.

I've got over 6K in turbojets, two check airmen recommendations, was employed at Spirit previously, left with a two week notice in good standing and CAN'T GET A CALL.
Old 03-13-2016 | 11:33 AM
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Sir, I'm confident you'll get a call but nobody is talking about RIGHT NOW. I'm sure classes will be full this year and maybe next. The whole point of this conversation is the FUTURE!!! 2-5 years from now the legacy hiring heats up big time. Youre not wrong but you are thinking like management is thinking. I smell smoke but let's wait until the flames are high to put out the fire
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