Spirit of NKS, Part II
03-13-2016, 11:47 AM
#4561
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 79
Originally Posted by ovrtake92
I smell smoke but let's wait until the flames are high to put out the fire
Wish for different going forward but don't bank on it.
03-13-2016, 11:58 AM
#4562
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A-320
Posts: 784
Originally Posted by The Revenge
Bud that's nearly every carrier in the industry. It took a strike to get the last contract. Can't get the flames much higher than that.
Wish for different going forward but don't bank on it.
Wish for different going forward but don't bank on it.
Best of luck on the call. Keep us posted
03-13-2016, 12:18 PM
#4563
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 387
Originally Posted by Rainbows
I'm talking the pilots here who do nothing but whine and cry over the difference between hourly pay rates here and hourly pay rates there.
03-13-2016, 01:21 PM
#4564
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 8
Pilot turnover
I'm not trying to make anybody feel insignificant but I think it's very presumptuous to think that pilots leaving for better jobs will have any effect on pilot negotiations or any thing else management does operationally. I have been here over a decade and I can assure anybody that management does not give a rats ass if you decide to wear a double breasted blazer because they will ALWAYS be able to find new hires! They will be happy to see you go and so will some of the guys you fly with because It's a win/win arrangement for all. I sincerely wish anybody leaving best of luck and I hope you have a long, prosperous career. However, I do believe that the only thing that will get managements attention is anything that adversely affects GROWTH or future MERGER/AQUISITION plans. We are not going to get a contract anytime soon because because Spirit Airlines has no financial incentive to give us one. Going on strike is fun I just hope next time I don't have to walk around in circles like a homeless person in the middle of summer when it's 98 degrees outside.
Last edited by TOGA LOCK; 03-13-2016 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Grammar
03-13-2016, 01:31 PM
#4565
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 45
Originally Posted by AirbusRetard
So what's the best way to leave here?
Thinking of using personal vacation days for the rest of the month. Will short and long term sick be paid out? Or the other way around call in sick to cash that bank out and vacation is paid out on last paycheck?
These banks are well earned and deserve to be used!
I assume we only get paid for what we fly and not the full month guarantee.
Thinking of using personal vacation days for the rest of the month. Will short and long term sick be paid out? Or the other way around call in sick to cash that bank out and vacation is paid out on last paycheck?
These banks are well earned and deserve to be used!
I assume we only get paid for what we fly and not the full month guarantee.
Good talk Russ
03-13-2016, 03:57 PM
#4566
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: B-767 FO
Posts: 554
Originally Posted by AirbusRetard
Good talk Russ
Vacation is paid out, if you provide 14 days notice. Section 7.F.3
03-13-2016, 06:06 PM
#4567
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Originally Posted by VegassBus
I agree and I just want to say, a lot of my anger isn't so much with "management " toying with us, it's Ackerman who gave false hope and allowed the company to walk all over us during the meltdown. It's also him telling me "fly it and grieve it" during a clear contract violation. He's still a voting member of the MEC which is scary and the majority of the MEC who put him in there are still there.
Also, it's been 48hrs since the new guy is elected and not a ****ing peep, what does it take to get a solid leader around here?
Also, it's been 48hrs since the new guy is elected and not a ****ing peep, what does it take to get a solid leader around here?
We are a union after all.
03-13-2016, 07:14 PM
#4568
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus
Posts: 213
Originally Posted by Chimpy
Just came across this on the AA/USAirways thread.
This is "average compensation", does this really include F/Os? , I wonder what ours is? Probably sub $120,000 if you include all of our F/Os Pretty sad when the average NJ State Trooper can easily pull in $180,000.00 and here we as Professional Airline pilots are struggling to break 85k as F/Os and need to be top of the scale to to make $200k as Captains.
This is "average compensation", does this really include F/Os? , I wonder what ours is? Probably sub $120,000 if you include all of our F/Os Pretty sad when the average NJ State Trooper can easily pull in $180,000.00 and here we as Professional Airline pilots are struggling to break 85k as F/Os and need to be top of the scale to to make $200k as Captains.
From the NJ hiring site, "The current starting salary for a trooper is $62,403.60 (including uniform allowance). The second-year total compensation significantly increases to $69,489.30. Top pay for a Trooper I is $108,847.13. Troopers receive yearly increments." I will say that NJ actually pays well in that regard though. Starting pay in my home state for a trooper is about 42,000
On another note that chart is sad and I am now going to sob into my beer.
Last edited by PikeAV8R; 03-13-2016 at 07:15 PM. Reason: Addition
03-13-2016, 08:10 PM
#4569
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Limo Driver. Left
Posts: 44
Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
Crack is Whack...Sorry, had to raise the BS flag on that one, I have a family member that was a trooper for 29 years and I knew that number was far from correct.
From the NJ hiring site, "The current starting salary for a trooper is $62,403.60 (including uniform allowance). The second-year total compensation significantly increases to $69,489.30. Top pay for a Trooper I is $108,847.13. Troopers receive yearly increments." I will say that NJ actually pays well in that regard though. Starting pay in my home state for a trooper is about 42,000
On another note that chart is sad and I am now going to sob into my beer.
From the NJ hiring site, "The current starting salary for a trooper is $62,403.60 (including uniform allowance). The second-year total compensation significantly increases to $69,489.30. Top pay for a Trooper I is $108,847.13. Troopers receive yearly increments." I will say that NJ actually pays well in that regard though. Starting pay in my home state for a trooper is about 42,000
On another note that chart is sad and I am now going to sob into my beer.
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03-13-2016, 09:17 PM
#4570
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: A320
Posts: 694
Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
Crack is Whack...Sorry, had to raise the BS flag on that one, I have a family member that was a trooper for 29 years and I knew that number was far from correct.
From the NJ hiring site, "The current starting salary for a trooper is $62,403.60 (including uniform allowance). The second-year total compensation significantly increases to $69,489.30. Top pay for a Trooper I is $108,847.13. Troopers receive yearly increments." I will say that NJ actually pays well in that regard though. Starting pay in my home state for a trooper is about 42,000
On another note that chart is sad and I am now going to sob into my beer.
From the NJ hiring site, "The current starting salary for a trooper is $62,403.60 (including uniform allowance). The second-year total compensation significantly increases to $69,489.30. Top pay for a Trooper I is $108,847.13. Troopers receive yearly increments." I will say that NJ actually pays well in that regard though. Starting pay in my home state for a trooper is about 42,000
On another note that chart is sad and I am now going to sob into my beer.
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