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Old 03-12-2016 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by The Revenge
The top pay on the current contract was higher then jetblue, AA, USAir, and United at the time it was signed. That's certainly not taking the industry backwards.

The wages will come around. The stall tactics and management dragging things out have gone on since the inception of this industry.

Which is why some on here and many others in the industry will never stop crying and *****ing. Best thing to do is get out of the industry.
Same **** goes on at every carrier. Wait for another downturn, the legacies will be first to furlough and give up concessions.
I'm not sure that's the case. This time around the retirement numbers are staggering
Old 03-12-2016 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Revenge
The top pay on the current contract was higher then jetblue, AA, USAir, and United at the time it was signed. That's certainly not taking the industry backwards.
You consider comparing yesterday's rates at other carriers to ours four years from now on par? I don't.

I was lucky enough to avoid the 2010 "B Scale" implementation, and was actually paid higher (couple bucks an hour) than a same longevity jetBlew guy.... for about 3 months. Sound about "on par" and worth risking a strike?

Edit: oops, scratch that 3 month statement... forgot to factor in the profit sharing. Then again maybe their awful health insurance makes up for that?
Old 03-12-2016 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeSmiles
Not even "on par" that $185 top rate was a 4 year "path to parity" with those concessionary contacts, which never actually happened.

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And that 185$ rate was achieved by building such an awesome slope to the pay scale..
Old 03-12-2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
And that 185$ rate was achieved by building such an awesome slope to the pay scale..
Thank God!

I thought we were going to have to go an entire day without input from the SLOPERS.
Old 03-12-2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Thank God!

I thought we were going to have to go an entire day without input from the SLOPERS.
Don't be a dope!, Fix the slope

I guess it's easy to critisize us "slopers" when you're at the beneficial end of that slope ehhhhhh
Old 03-12-2016 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Don't be a dope!, Fix the slope

I guess it's easy to critisize us "slopers" when you're at the beneficial end of that slope ehhhhhh
Not criticizing the slope, I think you guys have a legitimate beef on that one. Just tired of hearing about it, and don't like the occasional insinuation that those of us that escaped the B Scale were involved in a sinister plan to hose those of you that weren't even hired yet. You are working under the same slope that was in place when you were hired, stop whining and fix it.
Old 03-12-2016 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Not criticizing the slope, I think you guys have a legitimate beef on that one. Just tired of hearing about it, and don't like the occasional insinuation that those of us that escaped the B Scale were involved in a sinister plan to hose those of you that weren't even hired yet. You are working under the same slope that was in place when you were hired, stop whining and fix it.
Yes, you are correct, however I assumed we would fix it this contract. It has been said on more than a few occasions that it's incredibly expensive to fix and wouldn't quite be fair to give junior CAs such a large raise and leave the smallest increase to the senior guys. That's why I'm whining about it, because I get the impression it won't be fixed this time around either........ That's all
Old 03-12-2016 | 03:36 PM
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I like working here😀
Old 03-12-2016 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by illtake2
You are an *******, seriously. When you are in this training here you don't really have time to figure it out.

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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Yes, you are correct, however I assumed we would fix it this contract. It has been said on more than a few occasions that it's incredibly expensive to fix and wouldn't quite be fair to give junior CAs such a large raise and leave the smallest increase to the senior guys. That's why I'm whining about it, because I get the impression it won't be fixed this time around either........ That's all
That's such a lousy argument. I'll vote no to any proposal that doesn't fix this issue in a fair way. Industry average for everybody or nothing. How many guys on the B payscale? 900 vs maybe 400 on the A?
I imagine that it will be hard for a TA that doesn't address this problem to be approved.
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