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Old 03-12-2016, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by VegassBus View Post
I agree and I just want to say, a lot of my anger isn't so much with "management " toying with us, it's Ackerman who gave false hope and allowed the company to walk all over us during the meltdown. It's also him telling me "fly it and grieve it" during a clear contract violation. He's still a voting member of the MEC which is scary and the majority of the MEC who put him in there are still there.

Also, it's been 48hrs since the new guy is elected and not a ****ing peep, what does it take to get a solid leader around here?
Please go away. Your misery, contradictory posts and blatant ignorance to this industry are a complete detriment to this pilot group and serve to do absolutely nothing for this group.

We're all sick of seeing your sh*t spewed on a daily basis. Leave or stay for god sake STF-up
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Old 03-12-2016, 05:48 AM
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Please go away. Your misery, contradictory posts and blatant ignorance to this industry are a complete detriment to this pilot group and serve to do absolutely nothing for this group.

We're all sick of seeing your sh*t spewed on a daily basis. Leave or stay for god sake STF-up
Oh I'll be posting daily misery until I leave or we get a contract, get used to it
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Old 03-12-2016, 05:51 AM
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Oh I'll be posting daily misery until I leave or we get a contract, get used to it
Sorry DB I will not, because I'm placing you on ignore and I encourage everyone else on this thread to do the same. Your stupidity and misery is a toxic combination. Don't come to DTW any time soon.
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Old 03-12-2016, 05:53 AM
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Well, I guess the one good thing is we all know Jyri & Bendo and the rest of NK Managment read these Boards so at least they'll see morale is at an all time low, lol????.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphWiggum View Post
Sorry DB I will not, because I'm placing you on ignore and I encourage everyone else on this thread to do the same. Your stupidity and misery is a toxic combination. Don't come to DTW any time soon.
Vegass Bus may be a little rough around the edges and a dick sometimes, but he makes some valid points. The industry has changes so much over the last couple of years, that it makes staying at NK a much harder decision to rationalize. After almost 5 years I've come to the conclusion it may be time to get out, if things don't improve very soon.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:24 AM
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Oh I'll be posting daily misery until I leave or we get a contract, get used to it
Then he'll ***** about wherever he goes. There's always been a certain amount in this profession that would ***** if hung with a gold rope, and a certain bunch that are panty wastes.
If you got on board mid stream this contract then Spirits pay was on parity with everyone elses, in fact the pilot group can be credited for keeping the bar up during a down turn.
The remedy for ***** master is a couple furloughs.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:58 AM
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Then he'll ***** about wherever he goes. There's always been a certain amount in this profession that would ***** if hung with a gold rope, and a certain bunch that are panty wastes.
If you got on board mid stream this contract then Spirits pay was on parity with everyone elses, in fact the pilot group can be credited for keeping the bar up during a down turn.
The remedy for ***** master is a couple furloughs.
Completely agree with the first paragraph.

Second paragraph is completely inaccurate, no matter how many times it is repeated.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:01 AM
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Then he'll ***** about wherever he goes. There's always been a certain amount in this profession that would ***** if hung with a gold rope, and a certain bunch that are panty wastes.
If you got on board mid stream this contract then Spirits pay was on parity with everyone elses, in fact the pilot group can be credited for keeping the bar up during a down turn.
The remedy for ***** master is a couple furloughs.
Just so we are all on the same page, Spirit was "on par" with concessionary contracts.........they didn't really "raise any bar". Certainly didn't lower it by any means but you know "just 'sayin", lol
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:22 AM
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Just so we are all on the same page, Spirit was "on par" with concessionary contracts.........they didn't really "raise any bar". Certainly didn't lower it by any means but you know "just 'sayin", lol
Not even "on par" that $185 top rate was a 4 year "path to parity" with those concessionary contacts, which never actually happened.

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Old 03-12-2016, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
Completely agree with the first paragraph.

Second paragraph is completely inaccurate, no matter how many times it is repeated.
The top pay on the current contract was higher then jetblue, AA, USAir, and United at the time it was signed. That's certainly not taking the industry backwards.

The wages will come around. The stall tactics and management dragging things out have gone on since the inception of this industry.

Which is why some on here and many others in the industry will never stop crying and *****ing. Best thing to do is get out of the industry.
Same **** goes on at every carrier. Wait for another downturn, the legacies will be first to furlough and give up concessions.
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