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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Both.. Go back some pages and read how jetcap or something put it.. "Gotta get mine now!"

Most I talk to say "well if I say no or don't do it, someone else will do it.. So now I'm losing money... "
You both need to think a little bit harder about how the "Standing Available" list functions and how you can make money from being on it..
Old 04-23-2016 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NJGov
You both need to think a little bit harder about how the "Standing Available" list functions and how you can make money from being on it..
Please explain what you mean.
Old 04-23-2016 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by northdakota
Please explain what you mean.
If they don't call guys based on seniority order, you file a grievance, you get paid.

Kind of a PITA but I'm assuming that's how
Old 04-23-2016 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseJaw
They will just drag this out until a merger with that other shi.thole airline Frontier is announced and then we can wait another 3 year for a joint contract . I swear I can't update my AirlineApps account enough.
Someone gets it.
Old 04-23-2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rainbows
what are you talking about? A work stoppage is a strike, the fact that the only real way to get management to eagerly pursue a new contract is the threat of being released for to self help. Making that statement or believing it is not illegal. Everything else we do, from berating guys for picking up open time, to not calling for paperwork, to any of the other things we think will bring management to a serious discussion at the table amounts to a hill of beans. Money is all that matters, if the money is at risk, management gets worried. If the money keeps flowing, then why change anything? Here's a definition i pulled up on the google: Strike action, also called labor strike, labour strike, on strike, greve (of french: Grève), or simply strike, is a work stoppage caused by the mass refusal of employees to work. A strike usually takes place in response to employee grievances.
fish on!!!!
Old 04-23-2016 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseJaw
They will just drag this out until a merger with that other shi.thole airline Frontier is announced and then we can wait another 3 year for a joint contract . I swear I can't update my AirlineApps account enough.
I think theres a lot to this. I bet that's what management is waiting for, a purchase of frontier and then working a contract that'll be just a little more than we get now, but will make the frontier guys giddy with a big pay raise.
Old 04-23-2016 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
I think theres a lot to this. I bet that's what management is waiting for, a purchase of frontier and then working a contract that'll be just a little more than we get now, but will make the frontier guys giddy with a big pay raise.
Airline industry's Mgmt biggest coup over labor via the contract airlines growth of the 90s and 2000s has been the creation of a generation of pilots all willing to fly Airbi (or 737s) for appreciably less money than the legacies because "it's better than that regional" job they used to have.

The generation is bigger than one company so even if a lcc does stand up for itself there are others willing to fill their shoes.
Old 04-23-2016 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Airline industry's Mgmt biggest coup over labor via the contract airlines growth of the 90s and 2000s has been the creation of a generation of pilots all willing to fly Airbi (or 737s) for appreciably less money than the legacies because "it's better than that regional" job they used to have.



The generation is bigger than one company so even if a lcc does stand up for itself there are others willing to fill their shoes.


You are an idiot, you fly for LUV? Didn't you all start by undercutting majors? Then over time you worked your way up to a nice contract. But hey, Train like you fly, fly like you train!
Old 04-23-2016 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Airline industry's Mgmt biggest coup over labor via the contract airlines growth of the 90s and 2000s has been the creation of a generation of pilots all willing to fly Airbi (or 737s) for appreciably less money than the legacies because "it's better than that regional" job they used to have.

The generation is bigger than one company so even if a lcc does stand up for itself there are others willing to fill their shoes.
I think I should get paid more, but let me ask you, if a legacy won't hire me and I wanted out of my corporate gig, what am I supposed to do? Tell that company that offered me a job to stick it because they don't pay legacy wages. I don't have a college degree, although I'm close. I have a black mark on my record and interviewed at one legacy carrier before their merger (a legacy carrier who paid pretty poorly I might add), didn't get the job. So now, because I'm trying to do better for my family, I'm a scumbag because I took a job at a ulcc? Again I think we should get paid more, but you keep acting like I'm some sort of scab for accepting a job at a ulcc. If delta, United or American called for a class date, I'd sure take it, but right now I've got a mortgage, electric bills and the kids gotta eat, so I've got to hold down a job at a ulcc that you act like it's taking money out of your pocket. Take your holier than thou attitude elsewhere, I get enough of that in church.
Old 04-23-2016 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by illtake2
You are an idiot, you fly for LUV? Didn't you all start by undercutting majors? Then over time you worked your way up to a nice contract. But hey, Train like you fly, fly like you train!
I may be wrong, but I thought he works for Delta?
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