Spirit of NKS, Part II
03-16-2016, 07:24 PM
#4631
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I checked mine out. Went to myidtravel, booking/listing and listed my father for a mock trip from DFW to MEX...worked fine. Tried another with LUF, worked fine.
So if you're doing the process correctly, might be a glitch that needs to be fixed
So if you're doing the process correctly, might be a glitch that needs to be fixed
03-16-2016, 09:16 PM
#4632
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I checked mine out. Went to myidtravel, booking/listing and listed my father for a mock trip from DFW to MEX...worked fine. Tried another with LUF, worked fine.
So if you're doing the process correctly, might be a glitch that needs to be fixed
So if you're doing the process correctly, might be a glitch that needs to be fixed
03-17-2016, 02:06 AM
#4633
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Well, what he says and what he does are two different things.
Where was DUI Dougie when they discussed profit sharing and minimum days off etc, or days off in a hotel a 1,000 miles from home etc.....
I'm not defending our CEO, don't know anything about him other than he likes pasta and Vanilla Ice Cream. It's just I'm not going to praise Doug Parker because what he "says" in an article
Where was DUI Dougie when they discussed profit sharing and minimum days off etc, or days off in a hotel a 1,000 miles from home etc.....
I'm not defending our CEO, don't know anything about him other than he likes pasta and Vanilla Ice Cream. It's just I'm not going to praise Doug Parker because what he "says" in an article
The point I made by showing the talk of new rates by is that first UA, then DL proposed new pilot pay now AA is about to do the same.
We are getting leap frogged.
Our 40% raise needed to be on par with them is about to be 75%.
It's going to be very hard for an arbitration judge to say a 50-60% raise isnt in order.
03-17-2016, 03:33 AM
#4634
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Maybe it is all "talk" and maybe it's not. They are well compensated today and if this "talk" brings better work rules then AA will be the go-to place for a lot of guys.
The point I made by showing the talk of new rates by is that first UA, then DL proposed new pilot pay now AA is about to do the same.
We are getting leap frogged.
Our 40% raise needed to be on par with them is about to be 75%.
It's going to be very hard for an arbitration judge to say a 50-60% raise isnt in order.
The point I made by showing the talk of new rates by is that first UA, then DL proposed new pilot pay now AA is about to do the same.
We are getting leap frogged.
Our 40% raise needed to be on par with them is about to be 75%.
It's going to be very hard for an arbitration judge to say a 50-60% raise isnt in order.
03-17-2016, 05:58 AM
#4635
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A 3 yr fo needs an 85% raise at dos to meet united just on pay rates alone.
A 4yr ca needs a 76% raise at dos to meet United just on pay rates
A 12 yr ca needs a 45% raise at dos to meet United just on pay rates
Not sure where people are getting this 30-40% raise stuff. It's already north of 75% for many longevities.
A 4yr ca needs a 76% raise at dos to meet United just on pay rates
A 12 yr ca needs a 45% raise at dos to meet United just on pay rates
Not sure where people are getting this 30-40% raise stuff. It's already north of 75% for many longevities.
03-17-2016, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
When is AA contract amendable?
2019 for United
Who know what obscene pay delta will be making then. My guess is close to $300 12yr narrow body ca
03-17-2016, 06:23 AM
#4637
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Delta pilots will be making the going rate. Spirit pilots will be the ones making obscenely low pay.
03-17-2016, 06:51 AM
#4638
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Fair warning to applicants. Know exactly what you are signing up for. This airline has a regional mentality, operating Airbus. I am actively trying to escape. Anything short of a phenomenal contract I'll either be somewhere else flying or out of aviation entirely. I know it's off the beaten thread path but felt the need to post. Good luck getting out everyone.
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03-17-2016, 07:17 AM
#4639
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Originally Posted by paidpnuts
Fair warning to applicants. Know exactly what you are signing up for. This airline has a regional mentality, operating Airbus. I am actively trying to escape. Anything short of a phenomenal contract I'll either be somewhere else flying or out of aviation entirely. I know it's off the beaten thread path but felt the need to post. Good luck getting out everyone.
It's like this is everyone's first airline. Did you really think management was going to just give us a 50% raise on our amendable date?
It's a growing airline that sells it's own tickets and makes lots of money. Should you apply elsewhere, maybe... but it's not all doom and gloom.
The ULCC business model works. If you need an international planning room and gate agents that have been with the company for 35 years then this isn't the place for you.
That being said I'm not a low cost pilot and will not vote for anything less than industry pay rates.
03-17-2016, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by daves
It's like this is everyone's first airline. Did you really think management was going to just give us a 50% raise on our amendable date?
It's a growing airline that sells it's own tickets and makes lots of money. Should you apply elsewhere, maybe... but it's not all doom and gloom.
The ULCC business model works. If you need an international planning room and gate agents that have been with the company for 35 years then this isn't the place for you.
That being said I'm not a low cost pilot and will not vote for anything less than industry pay rates.
It's a growing airline that sells it's own tickets and makes lots of money. Should you apply elsewhere, maybe... but it's not all doom and gloom.
The ULCC business model works. If you need an international planning room and gate agents that have been with the company for 35 years then this isn't the place for you.
That being said I'm not a low cost pilot and will not vote for anything less than industry pay rates.
You're right, third airline for me and 13 yrs of 121. No, I didn't think we would get a contract on amendable date. However, I didn't expect transition with payrates that are still bottom of the barrel either. (Last negotiations email). My soul doesn't have another prolonged negotiations did that had my fun.
Unfortunately because we are ULCC the company conducts every part of their business as such. Including us. I really hope I'm wrong.
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