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Old 08-20-2016 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy94
Thanks for the info. I do live in base but it seems to have a questionable future. 38/hr is not ideal. Hopefully a new contract is around the corner for you guys!
Ya, but you can also break 100 hours on reserve flying ONE three or four day trip.. Allegaint has raised the floor on pay. Anyone's guess on how much longer it will be for us. Just started mediated talks.. I would like to know a statistic on the historic average amount of time it has taken to reach a TA after mediation begins.
Old 08-20-2016 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stanthecaddy
Hey Guys, I'm thinking about Spirit. On average, how many guys per month are leaving for other airlines?
2 out of my class of 16 left right after IOE.
Old 08-20-2016 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SG1159
At recurrent an Instructor told me that 12 left in July.... FO I flew with last week told me 18 left in July.... Take it for what it's worth- no one really knows....
Oh ya? Then why are Jan 4 hires still on reserve 9 months later....? This mass exodus.. I should at least hold relief 6 months after type..... ..
Old 08-20-2016 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
From Bloomberg-
"Chief Executive Officer Bob Fornaro says he’s been focused on reliability since his first day on the job six months ago. So has his board: In January, they amended executive compensation plans for 2016 to give on-time rate a 20 percent weighting in calculating managers’ bonuses, up from 10 percent."

There's a real easy way to fix this Bob.
It's called a win-win Bob. Until then, why should you get a raise and we don't? Perhaps guys will get the word out?
Ummmmm. What do "managers" who don't work within 5 miles of a flight have to do with on time performance? I can tell you what CREWMEMBERS have to do with it. Did you hear? American gave pilots profit sharing without them negotiating for it because it was "the right thing to do". All legacies pay prifit sharing. So, the "industry average" our NCs going for includes profit sharing... right?
Old 08-21-2016 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RJRJ
I would like to know a statistic on the historic average amount of time it has taken to reach a TA after mediation begins.
Union rep told me average is north of 2 years...
Old 08-21-2016 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
Union rep told me average is north of 2 years...
If they are smart, they want it done before 2019 when all the legacy contracts "me too" clause start taking affect. The asking price just went up after the Allegiant contract happened. Just for a fun rumor that has no support to it. A friend at United said they were looking to buy Spirit because why take over our 319s when they can get them with the company! There have fun with that one.
Old 08-21-2016 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SkywardAZ
If they are smart, they want it done before 2019 when all the legacy contracts "me too" clause start taking affect. The asking price just went up after the Allegiant contract happened. Just for a fun rumor that has no support to it. A friend at United said they were looking to buy Spirit because why take over our 319s when they can get them with the company! There have fun with that one.
In my opinion, the company will drag out negotiations as long as possible to "beat down" the union and its members to accept a much smaller raise with many, many concessions just to get that small raise.

As for United, I don't think they have the cash nor could get the loans to get that done. Don't get me wrong, a United takeover would be fine by me; I just don't think they have the cash.
Old 08-21-2016 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant

As for United, I don't think they have the cash nor could get the loans to get that done. Don't get me wrong, a United takeover would be fine by me; I just don't think they have the cash.

Cash on hand isn't an issue, United could purchase Spirit and finance it with the cash we have on hand.

I believe United purchasing Spirit is the most likely scenario out there, not just for the aircraft but for the pilots as well. A side benefit would be the increased presence in the SE USA and the elimination of a LCC competitor (United hasn't really formed an aggressive strategy against the ULCCs like AA and Delta have).

BUT, I don't think it's going to happen. United is going to look to acquire someone though, eventually. But that's a ways out.
Old 08-21-2016 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Cash on hand isn't an issue, United could purchase Spirit and finance it with the cash we have on hand.

I believe United purchasing Spirit is the most likely scenario out there, not just for the aircraft but for the pilots as well. A side benefit would be the increased presence in the SE USA and the elimination of a LCC competitor (United hasn't really formed an aggressive strategy against the ULCCs like AA and Delta have).

BUT, I don't think it's going to happen. United is going to look to acquire someone though, eventually. But that's a ways out.
I doubt they really would buy us. They brought in a new exec from Allegiant to go after ULCCs anyways.
Old 08-21-2016 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Cash on hand isn't an issue, United could purchase Spirit and finance it with the cash we have on hand.

I believe United purchasing Spirit is the most likely scenario out there. United is going to look to acquire someone though, eventually. But that's a ways out.
That is a very good point. They could use our money.
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