Spirit of NKS, Part II
08-22-2016 | 09:34 AM
#8162
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Ummmmm. What do "managers" who don't work within 5 miles of a flight have to do with on time performance? I can tell you what CREWMEMBERS have to do with it. Did you hear? American gave pilots profit sharing without them negotiating for it because it was "the right thing to do". All legacies pay prifit sharing. So, the "industry average" our NCs going for includes profit sharing... right?
That's the outrage here. They are going to get a raise long before we are.
And we still have clowns flying around at CI99 to help out.
When is this union going to support a legal, actionable response to these slaps in the face?
Bueller?
08-22-2016 | 09:50 AM
#8163
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The "managers" I'm referring to are the 3 usual suspects. The guys who control the schedule and gates space and published departure arrival times. They talked the board into giving them a raise from 10% weight to 20%.
That's the outrage here. They are going to get a raise long before we are.
And we still have clowns flying around at CI99 to help out.
When is this union going to support a legal, actionable response to these slaps in the face?
Bueller?
That's the outrage here. They are going to get a raise long before we are.
And we still have clowns flying around at CI99 to help out.
When is this union going to support a legal, actionable response to these slaps in the face?
Bueller?
It's beautiful because it's a legal action and it forces their hand because it's safety related.
08-22-2016 | 12:34 PM
#8164
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Uhhhh, they just did. Did you read the Safety Memo about starting an APU for fire protection safety on the taxi in? That's going into an ops memo as we speak and will become policy after that.
It's beautiful because it's a legal action and it forces their hand because it's safety related.
It's beautiful because it's a legal action and it forces their hand because it's safety related.
That memo was released as a safety/ non-compliance concern regarding our operation. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that it is legal and forces their hand is merely a side effect.
08-22-2016 | 12:45 PM
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The safety memo that was put out has absolutely nothing to do with our contract negotiations. Safety should never and will never be used as a bargaining platform for the contract.
That memo was released as a safety/ non-compliance concern regarding our operation. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that it is legal and forces their hand is merely a side effect.
That memo was released as a safety/ non-compliance concern regarding our operation. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that it is legal and forces their hand is merely a side effect.
08-22-2016 | 12:51 PM
#8166
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I kinda disagree. I don't think this obscure "life saving safety concern" would have been dumped on the company if we were a well paid and respected pilot group. I'd bet my savings that if we had annual profit sharing checks we would still be taxiing around on one engine and we would have never got the ALPA memo. Just my 2 cents.
08-22-2016 | 01:48 PM
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I kinda disagree. I don't think this obscure "life saving safety concern" would have been dumped on the company if we were a well paid and respected pilot group. I'd bet my savings that if we had annual profit sharing checks we would still be taxiing around on one engine and we would have never got the ALPA memo. Just my 2 cents.
This memo has nothing to do with negotiations and everything to do with the safety of our operation.
Safety is NOT negotiable.
08-22-2016 | 01:49 PM
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Yes I do think they would have overlooked it because it is a unrealistic "safety hazard". More likely to get hit by a meteor or be abducted by aliens than not being able to put out the fire.
08-22-2016 | 02:31 PM
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That has to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard in my 23 years in the airlines.
08-22-2016 | 02:43 PM
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Uhhhh, they just did. Did you read the Safety Memo about starting an APU for fire protection safety on the taxi in? That's going into an ops memo as we speak and will become policy after that.
It's beautiful because it's a legal action and it forces their hand because it's safety related.
It's beautiful because it's a legal action and it forces their hand because it's safety related.
The brain trust over there is really grasping at straws if all they can come up with is something we should never negotiate anyway (safety).
How is there not more outrage that these guys get raises or bonuses and we don't? Are we so lethargic we have lost the will to even fight a little?
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