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Old 08-24-2016, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
Oh and let's not forget JS email today thanking us for all our hard work yet not a hint of even a comprehensive contract proposal from management. They have had our entire ask for months now, and not so much as an insulting counter.

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Yes, but why would they? Will still have guys creaming over themselves to save the day! We've shown zero unity or resolve! Hell, we can't even get guys to wear a green lanyard. I heard Yuri say for every guy that doesn't have a green lanyard on, he considers a victory! Welcome to team Yuri!
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
I would love to know which instructors think that is fair to make a new hire train in the middle of the night so they can volunteer for extra straight pay. What a Fukcin joke!!!

With the ground instructor grievance and the threats that were made I have no idea why anyone would do this. Not to mention it sets a precedent in negotiation saying we have no problem training at 2 am.
We have 5am show times in FLL for PC. Not so fun for someone based in LAS, let me tell you.
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Old 08-24-2016, 02:55 PM
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We have 5am show times in FLL for PC. Not so fun for someone based in LAS, let me tell you.
How often are Vegas guys doing PCs in FLL? We do have Vegas sims
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements View Post
Not JS, only met the guy once, and I don't really care about his qualifications, fiber intake, or anything else but a fair contract for this pilot group.

If you have a personal beef with the guy's qualifications, have some self respect, man up and tell him yourself.

Every time I step foot in the training environment, I'm thankful for the great instructors and check airmen we DO have.

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Guys, I'm not quite sure where the rumor that we're doing sim sessions at 0300 started. That hasn't happened. The last sim sessions are schedule to end at 2330.

Plus, there is no instructor open time for pickup for a sim at 0300.

In the future? Who knows? As we grow, the union may sign off on round the clock sims, but as of now, that's not the case.



Really?
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:09 PM
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Guys, I'm not quite sure where the rumor that we're doing sim sessions at 0300 started. That hasn't happened. The last sim sessions are schedule to end at 2330.

Plus, there is no instructor open time for pickup for a sim at 0300.

In the future? Who knows? As we grow, the union may sign off on round the clock sims, but as of now, that's not the case.
Except me and 5 other people in my class. 2315 to 0315
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen View Post
Except me and 5 other people in my class. 2315 to 0315


I'm sorry in advance.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen View Post
Except me and 5 other people in my class. 2315 to 0315
Sorry, couldn't predict what was going to happen in the future.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux View Post
Sorry, couldn't predict what was going to happen in the future.

You're are good guy. "future" though? C'mon.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
I would love to know which instructors think that is fair to make a new hire train in the middle of the night so they can volunteer for extra straight pay. What a Fukcin joke!!!

With the ground instructor grievance and the threats that were made I have no idea why anyone would do this. Not to mention it sets a precedent in negotiation saying we have no problem training at 2 am.


Place is a brothel. High five


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Old 08-24-2016, 03:46 PM
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In my opinion, the company will drag out negotiations as long as possible to "beat down" the union and its members to accept a much smaller raise with many, many concessions just to get that small raise.

As for United, I don't think they have the cash nor could get the loans to get that done. Don't get me wrong, a United takeover would be fine by me; I just don't think they have the cash.
Spirit stock is worth half what it was last year, while we have, what? 20 MORE brand new planes with associated revenue, and 1400+ typed pilots. And they would be purchasing the most profitable airline in the US.
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