Spirit of NKS, Part II
08-22-2016, 05:25 PM
#8151
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Originally Posted by leardriver
Or how a about the genius that re wrote the pneumatic start procedures. After starting #2 at the gate. You now taxi out without the yellow pump running. Your whole career riding on the #2 engine driving hydraulic pump keeping your brakes and steering going till you cross bleed start #1. Brilliant.
My experience is that unless Jyri or someone in the inner core of the training department comes up with it, they pretend it isn't an issue.
08-22-2016, 05:26 PM
#8152
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Originally Posted by leardriver
Or how a about the genius that re wrote the pneumatic start procedures. After starting #2 at the gate. You now taxi out without the yellow pump running. Your whole career riding on the #2 engine driving hydraulic pump keeping your brakes and steering going till you cross bleed start #1. Brilliant.
08-22-2016, 05:43 PM
#8153
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Originally Posted by Load 15
You also have the accumulator to apply brake pressure if I remember correctly.
When we first got the Airbus. We used to have a single engine procedure. We started #2 first and taxi with the yellow electric pump as a backup. That procedure is straight from the Airbus AFM.
08-22-2016, 06:05 PM
#8154
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Originally Posted by leardriver
Ok. So your hopes and dreams of the future are riding on an accumulator that won't steer. But hey, you can differential brake around F/N taxing out to 28C at ORD.
When we first got the Airbus. We used to have a single engine procedure. We started #2 first and taxi with the yellow electric pump as a backup. That procedure is straight from the Airbus AFM.
When we first got the Airbus. We used to have a single engine procedure. We started #2 first and taxi with the yellow electric pump as a backup. That procedure is straight from the Airbus AFM.
No disrespect. Just saying.
08-22-2016, 07:01 PM
#8155
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My drop (coverage is green) has been pending and/or processing for 6 hrs.... Anyone else?
08-22-2016, 09:16 PM
#8156
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Originally Posted by AirbusA321Pilot
That has to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard in my 23 years in the airlines.
08-23-2016, 05:58 AM
#8157
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Originally Posted by leardriver
Next time your secured on the chocks right after shutdown. Release the park brake and jam on the toe brakes a few times. Especially one of the older jets. See how long the accumulator holds pressure. Then ask yourself. Do you really want to be taxing around a major airport during a push, in snow, fatigued, on one hydraulic pump? For a company that puts cost above all else???
No disrespect. Just saying.
No disrespect. Just saying.
If you're down to the accumulator the last thing you want to do is hit the brakes several times. One smooth application should stop the jet then set the PB.
No disrespect. Just saying.
08-23-2016, 06:32 AM
#8158
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Originally Posted by tweek
Why would you be taxing around fatigued? Or single engine in snow for that matter? If you're that worried about it start them both every time, nobody said you can't.
If you're down to the accumulator the last thing you want to do is hit the brakes several times. One smooth application should stop the jet then set the PB.
No disrespect. Just saying.
If you're down to the accumulator the last thing you want to do is hit the brakes several times. One smooth application should stop the jet then set the PB.
No disrespect. Just saying.
08-23-2016, 08:47 AM
#8159
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Why are you taxing around on engine 2 single engine? Our manuals prohibit this. You are to start engine one after push back or you are allowed to taxi only to get to a suitable place to start engine one.
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