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04-02-2015 | 05:06 PM
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Oh. So there was never over 140 200s with 40 900s whIle now there are 81 900s, 35 -200s and the rest on the verge of being parked?
Pinnacle Airlines finds a new owner and a new headquarters | Star Tribune
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140 200's at a 2 for 1 would equal 110 900's, so there clearly was no 2 for 1 deal and the article you quoted says nothing about 700's and nothing about 2 for 1. There are currently not 35 200's, you clearly have an agenda and have no clue what is going on at 9E.
04-02-2015 | 05:33 PM
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Oh. So there was never over 140 200s with 40 900s whIle now there are 81 900s, 35 -200s and the rest on the verge of being parked?
Pinnacle Airlines finds a new owner and a new headquarters | Star Tribune
Pinnacle Airlines finds a new owner and a new headquarters | Star Tribune
04-02-2015 | 06:23 PM
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Right. The point is, Endeavor got 40 some 900s and was going to lose over 130 200s. So, that's actually over 2 for 1. Yes, it's old. The point still stands. The airline is still parking aircraft and you'll be on reserve for a long time. Wasn't there a thread posted recently about Endeavor starting upgrades again for the first time in, well, long enough for it to be its own thread on APC?
04-02-2015 | 06:41 PM
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I gotta say this is pretty comical...
Earlier people were arguing paid hotels during OE and being compensated appropriately and it has somehow evolved to a TSA vs 9E ****ing contest.
Mind you, 9E FOs are making as much, if not more than TSA captains (especially in training according to this thread)
You can argue 9E might not be around in a few years but an all 50 seat fleet doesn't exactly have more stability given current industry consolidation...
Continue on ladies and gents, i just thought I'd point out the irony in this thread's development.
Earlier people were arguing paid hotels during OE and being compensated appropriately and it has somehow evolved to a TSA vs 9E ****ing contest.
Mind you, 9E FOs are making as much, if not more than TSA captains (especially in training according to this thread)
You can argue 9E might not be around in a few years but an all 50 seat fleet doesn't exactly have more stability given current industry consolidation...
Continue on ladies and gents, i just thought I'd point out the irony in this thread's development.
04-02-2015 | 07:04 PM
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I gotta say this is pretty comical...
Earlier people were arguing paid hotels during OE and being compensated appropriately and it has somehow evolved to a TSA vs 9E ****ing contest.
Mind you, 9E FOs are making as much, if not more than TSA captains (especially in training according to this thread)
You can argue 9E might not be around in a few years but an all 50 seat fleet doesn't exactly have more stability given current industry consolidation...
Continue on ladies and gents, i just thought I'd point out the irony in this thread's development.
Earlier people were arguing paid hotels during OE and being compensated appropriately and it has somehow evolved to a TSA vs 9E ****ing contest.
Mind you, 9E FOs are making as much, if not more than TSA captains (especially in training according to this thread)
You can argue 9E might not be around in a few years but an all 50 seat fleet doesn't exactly have more stability given current industry consolidation...
Continue on ladies and gents, i just thought I'd point out the irony in this thread's development.
Also, the TSA pay scale is higher than the Endeavor payscale. There is NO way an Endeavor FO is making more than a TSA Captain. $20k equates to approximately $20/hour. So, the maxed out $39/hour on the 900 turns into $59/hour. So, a new hire FO will make more than a new hire FO at TSA until year three pay, when the TSA FO will be making more until that person retires or moves on to a higher paying job.
04-02-2015 | 08:10 PM
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THere is no irony in this development. Until recently, it was one of the worst contracts in the regionals. So, you're right, now they have $20k in bonuses, up to 80k, right? I have to applaud to that development. Tell me, what's going to happen in 4 years once that bonus runs out and the FO that was just hired is still in the right seat for another 2 years?
Also, the TSA pay scale is higher than the Endeavor payscale. There is NO way an Endeavor FO is making more than a TSA Captain. $20k equates to approximately $20/hour. So, the maxed out $39/hour on the 900 turns into $59/hour. So, a new hire FO will make more than a new hire FO at TSA until year three pay, when the TSA FO will be making more until that person retires or moves on to a higher paying job.
Also, the TSA pay scale is higher than the Endeavor payscale. There is NO way an Endeavor FO is making more than a TSA Captain. $20k equates to approximately $20/hour. So, the maxed out $39/hour on the 900 turns into $59/hour. So, a new hire FO will make more than a new hire FO at TSA until year three pay, when the TSA FO will be making more until that person retires or moves on to a higher paying job.
I gotta say this is pretty comical...
Earlier people were arguing paid hotels during OE and being compensated appropriately and it has somehow evolved to a TSA vs 9E ****ing contest.
Mind you, 9E FOs are making as much, if not more than TSA captains (especially in training according to this thread)
You can argue 9E might not be around in a few years but an all 50 seat fleet doesn't exactly have more stability given current industry consolidation...
Continue on ladies and gents, i just thought I'd point out the irony in this thread's development.
Earlier people were arguing paid hotels during OE and being compensated appropriately and it has somehow evolved to a TSA vs 9E ****ing contest.
Mind you, 9E FOs are making as much, if not more than TSA captains (especially in training according to this thread)
You can argue 9E might not be around in a few years but an all 50 seat fleet doesn't exactly have more stability given current industry consolidation...
Continue on ladies and gents, i just thought I'd point out the irony in this thread's development.
04-02-2015 | 09:11 PM
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THere is no irony in this development. Until recently, it was one of the worst contracts in the regionals. So, you're right, now they have $20k in bonuses, up to 80k, right? I have to applaud to that development. Tell me, what's going to happen in 4 years once that bonus runs out and the FO that was just hired is still in the right seat for another 2 years?
Also, the TSA pay scale is higher than the Endeavor payscale. There is NO way an Endeavor FO is making more than a TSA Captain. $20k equates to approximately $20/hour. So, the maxed out $39/hour on the 900 turns into $59/hour. So, a new hire FO will make more than a new hire FO at TSA until year three pay, when the TSA FO will be making more until that person retires or moves on to a higher paying job.
Also, the TSA pay scale is higher than the Endeavor payscale. There is NO way an Endeavor FO is making more than a TSA Captain. $20k equates to approximately $20/hour. So, the maxed out $39/hour on the 900 turns into $59/hour. So, a new hire FO will make more than a new hire FO at TSA until year three pay, when the TSA FO will be making more until that person retires or moves on to a higher paying job.
How recently are we talkin? Because the PNCL 2011 JCBA blows TSA's out of the water. Even their current CBA with a 20k annual bonus is equal or more probably higher given the fact they are offering 200% for their open time. Yea, there's a lot more to a contract that just section 3, but you keep paying attention to that if it makes you feel better.
As for what happens in 4 years, what happens if TSA shuts down and all those FOs upgrade WITH that bonus if it all happens as Delta's management predicts? We can sit here and throw out 'what ifs' all night long but we both know 4 years in this industry is a crap shoot. How long before you "escaped" your last carrier? Half that time?
My point still stands, this thread becomes less objective and more hilarious with each post from you cheerleaders.
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