You say that like I'm supposed to care....

 

You dont care about the respect of an anonymous pilot posting on an obscure message board? Weird.

 

Well at least now we know the proper weight to lend to anything he has to say.

 

If you put any appreciable weight to anything anyone says on an anonymous message board, you might be living life the wrong way.

 

The PCL 2011 contract was a leap over what they had before, and was gutted in concessions which was sad given how hard they had fought for that contract. TSA has offered 200% in the past, and will likely be offering it soon given the amount of open time we have. However the 150% for pickups is comparable to the PCL contract. Some of the areas where TSA was deficient compared to the PCL contract have been addressed by recent LOIs, mainly the areas involving DFI reporting requirements, and others will be corrected in the new contract. Main differences are reserve rules and once again it should be addresed in our new contract. Having worked with both contracts the PCL one is marginally better, but to say it blows TSA out of the water is nonsense.

As a former PCL employee with lots of friends still there, I would be more worried about PCL/Endeavor being around in four years than TSA. Once Delta gets its rate resets and doesn't need Endeavor (or Gojet) anymore then I would be more worried about the future of PCL. See what Delta management did with Express I, Mesaba, Comair, Pinnacle and Freedom when they were no longer needed. Plus most Delta people you talk to think that the majority of their regional flying will return to mainline with 717 type airplanes. Kinda interesting your bonus is for only two years which is how long it will take Mother Delta to get all the 717s online.

Leases are dirt cheap on 50 seaters for a while, and TSA will be in good shape till the MRJ gets worked out one way or the other. Holdings is not going to let qualified pilots just walk away in the present staffing environment which is expected to get worse not better so TSA pilots will be fine no matter what happens. Many here do not expect the present organizational structure (3 certificates) to be the case with TSA Holdings five or ten years from now.

 

Except the bonus is four years in length, care to update your theory, what is Delta going to do with those two extra years? Ask yourself who is going to have the resources to keep pilots as the regionals start to crumble, Delta or Hulas? Does Hulas have 80 million sitting around to attract/keep pilots?

 

Probably does. You know Hulas is a private man, so who really knows.

 

I'll put it to you this way. When the crap hits the fan, I'd rather be working for Keith Stamper than Ryan "Last guy to turn the lights off" Gumm any day. I work with lots of ex Comair folks who have nothing good to say about Mr. Gumm. What is past is prologue. The only reason Delta is interested in keeping Endeavor staffed right now is to force rate resets. If they are successful then they don't need Endeavor any more and the past history of this management team is to dump a regional once they don't need it any more. If you don't think Delta is perfectly capable of leading Endeavor pilots on only to dump them in the end, then you are a fool. They have done it before. If you don't think Gumm isn't capable of the same thing then, once again you are a fool because he has done it before. Stamper had a solid reputation at Comair, and he has one at Trans States. I wouldn't trust Ryan Gumm or Delta management as far as I can throw them. I trust Keith Stamper because he has earned it. Holdings management is different, but Stamper has done nothing but back up what he says.

The game starts for real when the first Gojet 900 hits the ramp in June. We'll see if Skywest caves on the rate resets. Once that gets decided, however it works out then you will really see what Delta's intentions are with Endeavor.

Good luck trusting in Delta management, you are going to need it.

 

Kat is speaking truth. Delta will flush anyone who doesn't fit what it wants. Look what they did to Comair. I suspect Endeavour is about to find out what's it like to work for mama Delta, a very cruel woman who only cares about money.

 

So whats the latest with this CQFO MOU? Was supposed to be out 4 or 5 Monday's ago wasn't it???