IBT wins Representation election at Republic
06-27-2011 | 09:06 PM
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He has never posted here or on FI, he may seem uncooperative at times but that's because the people he's dealing with don't know the whole picture. Jeff has been one of the best leaders in FAPA's history. I hope the other two know who they are without listing them here.
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06-27-2011 | 09:10 PM
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Just registered to say as a Frontier pilot I'm not interested in Teamsters or being represented by a bunch of commuter pilots, furthermore no RAH or Teamsters crew members will occupy my jumpseats. If by any chance you are released and actually strike, I'll continue to fly and will not respect your picket lines. I do expect for the union representation I actually voted for to continue to expend all FAPA funds necessary to fight this and to return all funds to the current FAPA membership if necessary to keep them out of Teamsters hands. If this is not plain enough let me elaborate, I will not support Teamsters in any fashion or manner.
06-27-2011 | 09:42 PM
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Do you see more delusional behavior than misleading behavior?
Do you know more delusional people than people that are misleading?
Which condition do you find most amusing?
Please see post 56. Jeff wasn't even serving on the FAPA BoD:
> When divisiveness began fomenting.
> When the IBT refused to talk.
> When IBT pushed for together but unequal.
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06-27-2011 | 09:56 PM
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I truly hope that one day we can be one happy family. Local 357 isn't perfect, but we recognized that last fall and made a huge first step in righting the ship. We'll have to prove it, but there is more than enough room for F9 pilots in our union.
06-27-2011 | 10:19 PM
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I also think she's good at the work and wants to keep doing it, so she might have put up with some comments that she normally would not let pass.
Just my thought. If I had women figured out, I'd be a millionaire teaching classes - not boring holes in the sky. (That's probably misogynistic)
06-28-2011 | 03:28 AM
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I won't cross your strike line or fly your planes, but if you were released to self help sometime in the next 3 to 4 years AND the President and Congress didn't order you back to work, right now we have separate CBA's and to strike on your behalf would be an illegal work action on F9 pilots part.
3 very knowledgable people, 1 Management, 1 IBT and a very experienced Arbitrator have laughed out loud when asked if they thought RAH IBT would either get a contract or be released from mediation in the next 3 years. The Arbitrator was the one that said, in this economic environment there is not a chance in a million that the Government would allow ANY airline to strike (Amerijet really isn't a very good example of an "airline").
I feel bad for the vast majority of the great guys and gals that are line pilots at native RAH, you have been and are still being fed very biased and inaccurate information.
Did DS lead negotiations on contract 2003? If so, why is he running contract 2015 negotiations?
3 very knowledgable people, 1 Management, 1 IBT and a very experienced Arbitrator have laughed out loud when asked if they thought RAH IBT would either get a contract or be released from mediation in the next 3 years. The Arbitrator was the one that said, in this economic environment there is not a chance in a million that the Government would allow ANY airline to strike (Amerijet really isn't a very good example of an "airline").
I feel bad for the vast majority of the great guys and gals that are line pilots at native RAH, you have been and are still being fed very biased and inaccurate information.
Did DS lead negotiations on contract 2003? If so, why is he running contract 2015 negotiations?
06-28-2011 | 04:20 AM
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Exactly.
I also seriously doubt BB and WH will ever actually let us walk. The FFD cash cow would be shot and killed if we got out the door. It's a battle of wills and if we can hold our ranks and get to that point they will cave. Don't fall for the games and intimidation tactics.
I also seriously doubt BB and WH will ever actually let us walk. The FFD cash cow would be shot and killed if we got out the door. It's a battle of wills and if we can hold our ranks and get to that point they will cave. Don't fall for the games and intimidation tactics.
06-28-2011 | 04:59 AM
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I hope your NC is not using Spirit as an example.
They have a very high profit margin, and they were shooting for Jetblue rates (sound familiar). They did go on strike, and achieved....
Airbus pay rates (up a 321 no less) that are less than jetblue's 190 rates.
Yikes.
And you guys are going to strike in 2013 for jet blue 190 rates in your (frontier's?) 190?
Why are we talking about a strike, again?
They have a very high profit margin, and they were shooting for Jetblue rates (sound familiar). They did go on strike, and achieved....
Airbus pay rates (up a 321 no less) that are less than jetblue's 190 rates.
Yikes.
And you guys are going to strike in 2013 for jet blue 190 rates in your (frontier's?) 190?
Why are we talking about a strike, again?
06-28-2011 | 05:08 AM
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I hope your NC is not using Spirit as an example.
They have a very high profit margin, and they were shooting for Jetblue rates (sound familiar). They did go on strike, and achieved....
Airbus pay rates (up a 321 no less) that are less than jetblue's 190 rates.
Yikes.
And you guys are going to strike in 2013 for jet blue 190 rates in your (frontier's?) 190?
Why are we talking about a strike, again?
They have a very high profit margin, and they were shooting for Jetblue rates (sound familiar). They did go on strike, and achieved....
Airbus pay rates (up a 321 no less) that are less than jetblue's 190 rates.
Yikes.
And you guys are going to strike in 2013 for jet blue 190 rates in your (frontier's?) 190?
Why are we talking about a strike, again?
Are the pay rates at Spirit (that are below jetblue 190 rates) higher after the strike, or the same as before the strike?
Carl
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