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Old 06-12-2021 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
I’ve been in enough Jumpseats on them to see what was going on .
Oh thank goodness. And here I thought you didn’t know what you were talking about. Maybe the next time you’re in the jumpseat, you can show the pilots how to swivel the seats.
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Old 06-12-2021 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
yes it makes noise, oh well. At least it’s not shooting flames visible to the passengers like the 727 APU could.

climbs just fine.

and what skills would those be?

not underpowered at all.

but hey what do I know I’ve only flown it for 13 years vs riding the jumpseat.
never said I’ve flown it but I have flown Boeing products in years past .
In addition, every crew that I’ve had the pleasure of jumpseating with constantly complained and $itched about it being underpowered.And yes , the hydraulic system does sound like a barking dog 😂😂😂😂
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Old 06-12-2021 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
never said I’ve flown it but I have flown Boeing products in years past .
In addition, every crew that I’ve had the pleasure of jumpseating with constantly complained and $itched about it being underpowered.And yes , the hydraulic system does sound like a barking dog 😂😂😂😂
If you want to see underpowered, go ride on a 737-900ER on a hot day in Denver. At normal flaps 5 settings you are very close to exceeding the max tire speeds before the thing starts to fly. After a very long takeoff roll it then climbs out like it got punched in the gut. Then there’s the alternate flaps 5 go around procedure because it doesn’t have the power to go around and meet the climb requirements on one engine at the normal flaps 15 setting. Not all Boeing’s are created equal.
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Old 06-12-2021 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
I’ve been in enough Jumpseats on them to see what was going on .
Almost spit my coffee on that one.


The things some people say… LOL
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Old 06-12-2021 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
If you want to see underpowered, go ride on a 737-900ER on a hot day in Denver. At normal flaps 5 settings you are very close to exceeding the max tire speeds before the thing starts to fly. After a very long takeoff roll it then climbs out like it got punched in the gut. Then there’s the alternate flaps 5 go around procedure because it doesn’t have the power to go around and meet the climb requirements on one engine at the normal flaps 15 setting. Not all Boeing’s are created equal.
Did they fix any of the 900 problems on the max, ie the go around, the tail stand, the long takeoff rolls, the anemic A/C, not being able to flare?

Not flaming, genuinely curious.
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Old 06-12-2021 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Master of FiFi
Did they fix any of the 900 problems on the max, ie the go around, the tail stand, the long takeoff rolls, the anemic A/C, not being able to flare?

Not flaming, genuinely curious.
The max is just an efficient 737. Still has the alternate go around, kickstand, etc. It is not quite as noisy, but definitely not as quiet as other fleets. The APU and packs seem to work better, but we haven’t beat the new planes to death yet. As far as not being able to flare. I never really noticed that as a problem since I learned on 727’s and land everything flat. The tail strike problems aren’t from flaring, but mostly from bounced landings resulting from bad technique. People land with power and bounce, they then chop the power which allows the spoilers to deploy since wheel spin up occurred on the bounce and the power is now at idle, which then leads to a busted plane. Most of the tail strike issues are simply due to poor pilot technique.
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Old 06-12-2021 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
The guppy’s ok once you make your nest and don’t have to get up...
...and not raise your head and look at the overhead panel.
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Old 06-12-2021 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
The max is just an efficient 737. Still has the alternate go around, kickstand, etc. It is not quite as noisy, but definitely not as quiet as other fleets. The APU and packs seem to work better, but we haven’t beat the new planes to death yet. As far as not being able to flare. I never really noticed that as a problem since I learned on 727’s and land everything flat. The tail strike problems aren’t from flaring, but mostly from bounced landings resulting from bad technique. People land with power and bounce, they then chop the power which allows the spoilers to deploy since wheel spin up occurred on the bounce and the power is now at idle, which then leads to a busted plane. Most of the tail strike issues are simply due to poor pilot technique.
From a pax perspective, the packs are terrible on the ground. You see a lot of people reaching up to try to open the gasper only to find it is open. But it is noticeably quieter than the NG.
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Old 06-12-2021 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DwightSchrute
Almost spit my coffee on that one.


The things some people say… LOL
I’m glad someone besides me has a sense of humor 😂
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Old 06-12-2021 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
...and not raise your head and look at the overhead panel.
Until I got bifocals I didn’t know my neck could tilt that far back. Trying to see a switch at the top of the panel through the bottom of your glasses is entertaining. I’ve turned into the old guy that I used to laugh at. Cant hear, can’t see, and just want to go get some sleep at the end of the day.
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