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Old 07-04-2021, 08:07 AM
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I’ve been seeing a lot people say 777 / 787 to new hires in the next year or two, where are people getting this from? When I look at the predictions on CCS it looks years away for someone on property now. What am I missing?
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Old 07-04-2021, 08:12 AM
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I’ve been seeing a lot people say 777 / 787 to new hires in the next year or two, where are people getting this from? When I look at the predictions on CCS it looks years away for someone on property now. What am I missing?
Those CCS predictions are all based on where you fall in relation to the junior man. The WB basing footprint particularly at the moment makes it difficult to use that as a realistic measure. Also, if for some reason a vacancy bid results in unfilled WB FO vacancies, the company can (and has in the last two years) put those in the new hire bid.

That being said, as soon as you are an employee, you can bid on those vacancies and in some cases never complete the training on your initial aircraft if you were to get an award.
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Old 07-04-2021, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider View Post
I’ve been seeing a lot people say 777 / 787 to new hires in the next year or two, where are people getting this from? When I look at the predictions on CCS it looks years away for someone on property now. What am I missing?
That will ruffle some feathers!!!!!
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Old 07-04-2021, 08:20 AM
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That will ruffle some feathers!!!!!
There are always airlines pilots that will whine about anything.
But if the company was growing at a rate to support that, I would call that "welcome news".

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Old 07-04-2021, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp View Post
Those CCS predictions are all based on where you fall in relation to the junior man. The WB basing footprint particularly at the moment makes it difficult to use that as a realistic measure. Also, if for some reason a vacancy bid results in unfilled WB FO vacancies, the company can (and has in the last two years) put those in the new hire bid.

That being said, as soon as you are an employee, you can bid on those vacancies and in some cases never complete the training on your initial aircraft if you were to get an award.

Nice, will see what happens end of july when the bid comes out
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:01 AM
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Is it difficult to drop trips from a line or reserve to regularly get 14d off in a row? If impossible, would 10 be plausible?

How much does seniority influence the ability to drop trips?

Is there a minimum required to fly on a monthly basis to maintain insurance coverage?

Basically I’m trying to ascertain whether it’s possible to be part time and improve QOL.



Thank you for replies.
As a probationary pilot, you not only need to meet the one year of probation requirement, you also need to have worked x number of days before probation ends. I don't remember the exact number of days.

As to what you want to accomplish, one can theoretically drop to zero hours per month and still keep benefits. Right now, there are zero hour lines being offered - it allows one to pick up open time to fill out their schedule.
There is also COLA offered to some fleets/seats. In normal times, this mostly occurs during slow months (post New Years, late fall).
So yes, it's not too difficult to get 14 days in a row off if you work the system. The more seniority you have in your fleet/seat, the easier it is.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
There are always airlines pilots that will whine about anything.
But if the company was growing at a rate to support that, I would call that "welcome news".
Yup, but well stated from you and your perspective. Always appreciated. Happy 4th.
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy View Post
As a probationary pilot, you not only need to meet the one year of probation requirement, you also need to have worked x number of days before probation ends. I don't remember the exact number of days.

As to what you want to accomplish, one can theoretically drop to zero hours per month and still keep benefits. Right now, there are zero hour lines being offered - it allows one to pick up open time to fill out their schedule.
There is also COLA offered to some fleets/seats. In normal times, this mostly occurs during slow months (post New Years, late fall).
So yes, it's not too difficult to get 14 days in a row off if you work the system. The more seniority you have in your fleet/seat, the easier it is.
Regarding probation….

6-C Period of Probation
A Pilot shall be on probation for twelve (12) Bid Periods of service as a Pilot for the Company and having performed 165 days of work for the Company. For purposes of this Section 6-C, "Work" shall include Pilot duty, reserve availability, training, instruction, special assignment and all other flight duties for which compensation is paid. Nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to prevent the Company from ending a Pilot’s employment during his period of probation regardless of his position on the Seniority List.
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
There are always airlines pilots that will whine about anything.
But if the company was growing at a rate to support that, I would call that "welcome news".
Get your point Huggy but I hope if it comes to that point the company and ALPA will block a new hire until they get some UA hours under them. Happened in the late 90s.

Not a pay your dues thing, just not the best place to put a NH IMHO.

Hope you have a great 4th of July!!!’
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Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT View Post
Applied and got excepted at ERAU (I was alive and breathing) knocked it out in 29 months. BS in AirSci minor in Met plus an internship my last semester graduated with a 3.64!
I guess they made an acception for you…..
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