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Old 07-05-2021, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG View Post
Get your point Huggy but I hope if it comes to that point the company and ALPA will block a new hire until they get some UA hours under them. Happened in the late 90s.

Not a pay your dues thing, just not the best place to put a NH IMHO.

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I guess that could also depend on the their background. If they are coming from a cargo company flying 747’s or the military flying C-17’s it would be an easy fit. Coming off of a CRJ-200, probably not.
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Old 07-05-2021, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG View Post
Get your point Huggy but I hope if it comes to that point the company and ALPA will block a new hire until they get some UA hours under them. Happened in the late 90s.

Not a pay your dues thing, just not the best place to put a NH IMHO.
Never understood this thought process. Why would we block new hires from going to WBs?
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Old 07-05-2021, 11:11 AM
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I’ve been seeing a lot people say 777 / 787 to new hires in the next year or two, where are people getting this from? When I look at the predictions on CCS it looks years away for someone on property now. What am I missing?
We were only a few vacancies away in 2019/2020 from this being a thing.
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Old 07-05-2021, 12:13 PM
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At the time is was about the training footprint. The wide body transition training courses assumed some Boeing and FMC knowledge that the typical new person may or may not have. Rather than go through the lengthy and and expensive process of amending the training footprints, the best course of action seemed to be no new folks on those fleets. I’m not saying it was good or bad, just the way it was. Hell of a nice problem to be having....
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At the time is was about the training footprint. The wide body transition training courses assumed some Boeing and FMC knowledge that the typical new person may or may not have. Rather than go through the lengthy and and expensive process of amending the training footprints, the best course of action seemed to be no new folks on those fleets. I’m not saying it was good or bad, just the way it was. Hell of a nice problem to be having....
Makes sense. This I can see, but to Lee’s point of having a few UA hours under their belt, I’m not sure what difference that would make.
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Old 07-06-2021, 04:59 AM
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Makes sense. This I can see, but to Lee’s point of having a few UA hours under their belt, I’m not sure what difference that would make.
To that point specifically, maybe there is a significant investment associated with flying heavys? Remember the new hire who pretty much totaled that 757 a year or 2 ago? Wouldn’t want to do that with a 777 or 787. I’m just playing devils advocate. I don’t know the real reason.
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Old 07-06-2021, 05:31 AM
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To that point specifically, maybe there is a significant investment associated with flying heavys? Remember the new hire who pretty much totaled that 757 a year or 2 ago? Wouldn’t want to do that with a 777 or 787. I’m just playing devils advocate. I don’t know the real reason.
I think there were a number of issues that led to the WB restriction back in the day. Now, of course, the 756 is a global fleet so it’s available to NHs.
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:54 AM
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It because captains didn’t want to have to buy 4 dinners and beers. It’s better to leave to the narrow body pilots…. (I kid)
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It because captains didn’t want to have to buy 4 dinners and beers. It’s better to leave to the narrow body pilots…. (I kid)

LOL. Filler.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG View Post
I think there were a number of issues that led to the WB restriction back in the day. Now, of course, the 756 is a global fleet so it’s available to NHs.
Copy all, it would be interesting to know what those issues were. As a guy who was flying the C-5 at 24 with 250 hours (*knowing the laundry list of differences could go on endlessly*), it seems like a crazy restriction. Not sure how the triple flies, but I imagine, like the C-5, it flies like an airplane. Maybe even easier from what my friends tell me. But I think all the complaints about the guppy are overrated as well.

Must be my superior airmanship and chest hair.

It’ll be interesting to see what the company and the Union do when this becomes a thing, and I think it will sooner rather than later.
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