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Old 07-05-2021 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
”Hey, I haven’t even started yet but I’m trying to ascertain how to work as little as possible at my dream job.” What the eff?

As long as a pilot complies with the contract to the letter and isn’t getting any CM special carve outs what’s the problem?

I don’t care how much a guy works or doesn’t work as long as they are adhering to the contract.
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Old 07-05-2021 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
The spelling police have arrived on the scene...
I’m merely pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of a group of people touting how important a college degree is to the “quality” of our pilot group……yet they can’t communicate using proper English we all should know from high school. Exceptionalism coupled with ignorance isn’t a good look.
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Old 07-05-2021 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
Get your point Huggy but I hope if it comes to that point the company and ALPA will block a new hire until they get some UA hours under them. Happened in the late 90s.

Not a pay your dues thing, just not the best place to put a NH IMHO.

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I guess that could also depend on the their background. If they are coming from a cargo company flying 747’s or the military flying C-17’s it would be an easy fit. Coming off of a CRJ-200, probably not.
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Old 07-05-2021 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
Get your point Huggy but I hope if it comes to that point the company and ALPA will block a new hire until they get some UA hours under them. Happened in the late 90s.

Not a pay your dues thing, just not the best place to put a NH IMHO.
Never understood this thought process. Why would we block new hires from going to WBs?
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Old 07-05-2021 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
I’ve been seeing a lot people say 777 / 787 to new hires in the next year or two, where are people getting this from? When I look at the predictions on CCS it looks years away for someone on property now. What am I missing?
We were only a few vacancies away in 2019/2020 from this being a thing.
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Old 07-05-2021 | 12:13 PM
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At the time is was about the training footprint. The wide body transition training courses assumed some Boeing and FMC knowledge that the typical new person may or may not have. Rather than go through the lengthy and and expensive process of amending the training footprints, the best course of action seemed to be no new folks on those fleets. I’m not saying it was good or bad, just the way it was. Hell of a nice problem to be having....
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Old 07-05-2021 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jtbost
At the time is was about the training footprint. The wide body transition training courses assumed some Boeing and FMC knowledge that the typical new person may or may not have. Rather than go through the lengthy and and expensive process of amending the training footprints, the best course of action seemed to be no new folks on those fleets. I’m not saying it was good or bad, just the way it was. Hell of a nice problem to be having....
Makes sense. This I can see, but to Lee’s point of having a few UA hours under their belt, I’m not sure what difference that would make.
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Old 07-06-2021 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxy5
Makes sense. This I can see, but to Lee’s point of having a few UA hours under their belt, I’m not sure what difference that would make.
To that point specifically, maybe there is a significant investment associated with flying heavys? Remember the new hire who pretty much totaled that 757 a year or 2 ago? Wouldn’t want to do that with a 777 or 787. I’m just playing devils advocate. I don’t know the real reason.
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Old 07-06-2021 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
To that point specifically, maybe there is a significant investment associated with flying heavys? Remember the new hire who pretty much totaled that 757 a year or 2 ago? Wouldn’t want to do that with a 777 or 787. I’m just playing devils advocate. I don’t know the real reason.
I think there were a number of issues that led to the WB restriction back in the day. Now, of course, the 756 is a global fleet so it’s available to NHs.
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Old 07-06-2021 | 06:54 AM
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It because captains didn’t want to have to buy 4 dinners and beers. It’s better to leave to the narrow body pilots…. (I kid)
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