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Old 05-29-2023 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
United’s public plan at present involves

1) organic growth
2) regional to mainline growth
3) a comparatively small number of retirements

Where we are in the hiring wave really depends how #1 and #2 play out over 2025-2030

The real lottery winners were the 2019-2021 hires. But 2023 still looks solidly middle of the wave, have a strong career.
to get hired in 2019 , you most likely need 10 yrs in the game prior. To get hired in 2023 you probably only need 5-6. Food for thought who the lottery winners are
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Old 05-29-2023 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
to get hired in 2019 , you most likely need 10 yrs in the game prior. To get hired in 2023 you probably only need 5-6. Food for thought who the lottery winners are
Us pre-2019 hires used to say the lotto winners were determined at retirement. Any attempt to judge your timing/decision making before that date was considered premature (and potentially unlucky). Food for thought from an old-timer.
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Old 05-29-2023 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Swindler128
yeah i mean the goal at the moment is 12 but theres potential for 22 if i really wanted to work till 65 ( i do not )
also I doubt a captain upgrade over here is on the cards anytime soon especially past merger..

again though back to the main point. How much hiring left does everyone think United has in em for the next say 5 years. Where would that place someone. Is there any number how much they want to hire next year?
My relative seniority also is about to get blown up with integration to keep in mind assuming merger.
Want to apply to United? do it. Waiting isn’t going to make things any better for you if you go to UAL. You won’t have near the flexibility you’ve got now. Schedule flexibility bad compared to Spirit, Frontier and JetBlue. Reserve is worse than every other Legacy, JetBlue and most every regional actually.

You’ll get variety of flying and the ability to fly widebody and upgrade on a couple different aircraft, but you’ll show up fly your trip and go home. The scheduling flexibility you get as a junior line holder at Spirit is something 30 year captains at UAL dream about at night. UAL is less of a dumpster fire operationally, so there’s that.
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Old 05-29-2023 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Want to apply to United? do it. Waiting isn’t going to make things any better for you if you go to UAL. You won’t have near the flexibility you’ve got now. Schedule flexibility bad compared to Spirit, Frontier and JetBlue. Reserve is worse than every other Legacy, JetBlue and most every regional actually.

You’ll get variety of flying and the ability to fly widebody and upgrade on a couple different aircraft, but you’ll show up fly your trip and go home. The scheduling flexibility you get as a junior line holder at Spirit is something 30 year captains at UAL dream about at night. UAL is less of a dumpster fire operationally, so there’s that.
That’s certainly the case…NOW. But that all will HAVE to change in the next contract otherwise it was be a resounding NO vote just like the Tumi TA disaster. We are out for blood when it comes to drastic work rule improvements
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Old 05-29-2023 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
to get hired in 2019 , you most likely need 10 yrs in the game prior. To get hired in 2023 you probably only need 5-6. Food for thought who the lottery winners are
The tip of the hiring wave looks like it was 2019-2021.

And yes ... the folks who don't remember 9/11 hired in 2023 did pretty well for themselves too.
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Old 05-29-2023 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
That’s certainly the case…NOW. But that all will HAVE to change in the next contract otherwise it was be a resounding NO vote just like the Tumi TA disaster. We are out for blood when it comes to drastic work rule improvements
Then you might as well vote no now…. I don’t see a single thing that implies work rule improvements for line holder ability to control their schedule in the latest position report unless they are keeping those nuggets a secret. Still no caps on min lvls, which is probably the single biggest detriment to QoL we have. It’s almost like the NC is the same NC that brought us Tumi… Oh wait…
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Old 05-30-2023 | 05:16 AM
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Been here 3 years btw at the ulcc. So on 160 ish an hour. I really wish as I'm sure everyone else does united would put out a decent contract already. Near impossible to just yolo on hopes and dreams. Then again a merger with a lcc is also a yolo.
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Old 05-30-2023 | 08:38 AM
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Default Class drops today?

Did a class start today? Does anyone have the drop?
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Old 05-30-2023 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Swindler128
Been here 3 years btw at the ulcc. So on 160 ish an hour. I really wish as I'm sure everyone else does united would put out a decent contract already. Near impossible to just yolo on hopes and dreams. Then again a merger with a lcc is also a yolo.
Im in a similar pos as you.....been at a LCC for almost 5 years so I am a few numbers north of your hourly rate. I'm around your age but committed to 65. My choice seems risky I know, but it really comes down to my own situation. I live in base (EWR) which coincidentally is one of United most junior bases, but it is also one of my company's most senior bases. It is a Gigantic pay cut for first year.....but as you say this upcoming merger between our two carriers I don't think is going to spawn as much growth as Executives claim....and as always with a merger there will be a period of stagnation, unknown SLI process.......and there are NEVER going to be wide bodies. Feel free to Private message me and I 'd be glad to discuss more.
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Old 05-30-2023 | 02:44 PM
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Default 5/30

5/30 class:

14x IAH 737
14x EWR 737
12x EWR 320
5x SFO 756
2x EWR 787
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