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Old 03-27-2019 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePenguin328
You were actually “worried” about running the APU? Worry about keeping the cabin temp the same temp as Scott Kirby’s office in Willis Tower.....
I never have worried about that. The passengers should walk from the terminal to their seat with no change in temperature as far as I’m concerned. I do find it ironic that they harp on saving fuel and being efficient while burning through millions for something that doesn’t affect the bottom line. I doubt uniform styles or the color palatte of the livery ever affected a customers decision to buy a ticket. I guess that they spent the big bucks on market research though. It could be that people will keep coming back to inoperative WiFi, direct tv, etc, as long as the paint is pretty and the crew is wearing something trendy. 11 years left and counting the days.
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Old 03-28-2019 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ERHB
Can anyone suggests who would be the best person to contact if we wanted a change in the uniforms?
You r funny.
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Old 03-28-2019 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ERHB
Can anyone suggests who would be the best person to contact if we wanted a change in the uniforms?
What sort of suggestions you got?

I am the person in charge of this new uniform. Please let me know what you think.

I have worked very hard on this new color palette. I am very proud of the work we've done in selecting the new "uniform of the future." it's inclusive, its fun, its awesome, and it's cool.

I took my inspiration from Barney and from the inclusivity of the color purple. Purple is essentially a melting pot of colors, backgrounds, attitudes, behaviors, preferences, and really exudes "inclusivity."

We're all about the purple at the new U.

Sorry......Couldn't resist. the real person in charge of the uniforms is "un-named." I been looking for an accountable person, person in charge for a while now. I keep getting... "uniform committee."

No one at United takes a crap by "committee." They operate in "silos." So, someone is in charge, but they are keeping it a secret so he or she doesn't get beat up with all the negativity...... That and they are hoping that after all the negativity blows by pilots will forget and be lulled back to sleep.

these aren't the droids you are looking for will be replaced by "these aren't the purple ties you thought you saw."

Move along now, nothing to see here but pilots wearing pernerple in hipseter pants.
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Old 03-28-2019 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100

1. How much is this new uniform campaign costing us?

2. Exactly how much will going through all this and changing our uniforms add to our annual revenues?


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Another qeustion....What's wrong with our current uniform?

No profit sharing next year. Painting jets and issuing out new uniforms will eat up any profits.
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Old 03-28-2019 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Another qeustion....What's wrong with our current uniform?



No profit sharing next year. Painting jets and issuing out new uniforms will eat up any profits.


No doubt. It’s contract negotiation time, which means new ground equipment, and basically any discretionary spending will get the green light so the company “can’t” afford the pilots.
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Old 03-29-2019 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by M5000
No doubt. It’s contract negotiation time, which means new ground equipment, and basically any discretionary spending will get the green light so the company “can’t” afford the pilots.
I saw that at Continental. They didn't want to pay the pilots. So, they "invested" at a very convenient time. New office spaces, renovations of terminals, upgrading computer and info systems. They bought new trucks, tugs, whatever. It was like watching "money ball" in reverse. They didn't want to put their money on the field (ie pay the pilots). So, they put their money in soda machines.

Once you invest in pilots, you raise the bar and the expectations. You give them a pay raise, and then you end up having to give them another one. instead, you spend your free cash in other places, thus giving the illusion you have no spare/free cash.
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Old 03-29-2019 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I saw that at Continental. They didn't want to pay the pilots. So, they "invested" at a very convenient time. New office spaces, renovations of terminals, upgrading computer and info systems. They bought new trucks, tugs, whatever. It was like watching "money ball" in reverse. They didn't want to put their money on the field (ie pay the pilots). So, they put their money in soda machines.

Once you invest in pilots, you raise the bar and the expectations. You give them a pay raise, and then you end up having to give them another one. instead, you spend your free cash in other places, thus giving the illusion you have no spare/free cash.
Thank God you’re not at Continental anymore!
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Old 03-29-2019 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I saw that at Continental. They didn't want to pay the pilots. So, they "invested" at a very convenient time. New office spaces, renovations of terminals, upgrading computer and info systems. They bought new trucks, tugs, whatever. It was like watching "money ball" in reverse. They didn't want to put their money on the field (ie pay the pilots). So, they put their money in soda machines.
That must be when they renovated the men’s bathroom in the IAH crew room putting in something like 3 dozen urinals. If someone stands beside you in that cavernous place it’s not because it’s too crowded.
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Old 03-29-2019 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
Thank God you’re not at Continental anymore!
He’s employed by United Continental Holdings....
I’m sure you said that in the most positive and supportive way and you weren’t attempting to start more LUAL, LCAL bickering....
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Old 03-29-2019 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
That must be when they renovated the men’s bathroom in the IAH crew room putting in something like 3 dozen urinals. If someone stands beside you in that cavernous place it’s not because it’s too crowded.
Yeah....

but seriously, if the company wants to hide money it's harder now.

used to hide it and move it around in short and long term investments, short and long term hedges. stock buy backs. funding retirements. buying equipment. renovations, improvements.

Our last contract, the merger contract was really easy. The company needed the pilots. Both pilot groups had the financials and there was allot of transparency. Company knew a fight on scope wouldn't be productive.

On the contract extension, the company didn't want to chase their tail. The cycle of other airlines making improvements would have meant the company essentially would have been negotiating against themselves. Raising the bar, and then raising the bar. This way other airlines did the heavy lifting.

Now, it's UAL's turn in the front of the firing line. Company will re-state their "scope position" in terms of we can do X, Y, or Z, but you gotta give us scope. Can't do x or y because no money, but we might to Z if you ….fill in the blank. Lots of smoke and mirrors, but all roads lead back to scope. Sorta like driving on a round about. Every 10 seconds we see scope out the right hand window.
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