UPA amendable date!
02-05-2019 | 07:47 AM
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02-05-2019 | 07:49 AM
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Yes, FRMS/duty extension that was preserved by a previous and unanimous MEC 'No' vote on the topic. Munoz needed to change the narrative especially since the FA contract negotiation was dragging on and on.
So fun to pretend that there is nothing that the company wants or that we need to protect in our contract. You might want to compare DAL & UAL wide body fleets.
So fun to pretend that there is nothing that the company wants or that we need to protect in our contract. You might want to compare DAL & UAL wide body fleets.
02-05-2019 | 08:22 AM
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Yes, FRMS/duty extension that was preserved by a previous and unanimous MEC 'No' vote on the topic. Munoz needed to change the narrative especially since the FA contract negotiation was dragging on and on.
So fun to pretend that there is nothing that the company wants or that we need to protect in our contract. You might want to compare DAL & UAL wide body fleets.
So fun to pretend that there is nothing that the company wants or that we need to protect in our contract. You might want to compare DAL & UAL wide body fleets.
I'm too old to pretend. The only way to achieve true contractual gains is to actually negotiate a contract. The JCBA doesn't count due to competing interests. I've been waiting 16 years.
You raise the spectre of the company Christmas wish list, protecting our contract, and our lopsided widebody advantage over Delta. What has changed in the landscape from the days of the extension to the present that allows us to open the entire contract now vs 3-4 years ago?
02-05-2019 | 08:31 AM
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So 787s were arriving on the property, Oscar needed relief on the ULH routes and he wanted to change the narrative? That's a bargain if I ever saw one.
I'm too old to pretend. The only way to achieve true contractual gains is to actually negotiate a contract. The JCBA doesn't count due to competing interests. I've been waiting 16 years.
I'm too old to pretend. The only way to achieve true contractual gains is to actually negotiate a contract. The JCBA doesn't count due to competing interests. I've been waiting 16 years.
All evidence to the contrary.
02-05-2019 | 08:41 AM
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Seriously though, how were they going to fly the ULH routes unless we caved? Either they defer the deliveries or put them on different routes. Both options would have cost the company $ correct?
02-05-2019 | 09:12 AM
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As to our current talks, you and I have no idea how its going as our MEC's kept that completely under wraps.
Nice try though.
02-05-2019 | 09:35 AM
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The UPA amendable date is 1/31/19. The DPA amendable date is 12/31/19 as is the APA's. The UAL MEC just put out a letter signed by every member. Ask the Delta folks how unified their MEC is. United pilots are leading this round of pattern bargaining.
02-05-2019 | 09:39 AM
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What, is Sprayragen walking into Wedoff's court with a briefcase full of papers again? Unless that's happening....
Seriously though, how were they going to fly the ULH routes unless we caved? Either they defer the deliveries or put them on different routes. Both options would have cost the company $ correct?
Seriously though, how were they going to fly the ULH routes unless we caved? Either they defer the deliveries or put them on different routes. Both options would have cost the company $ correct?
It was just a 2 year extension that still upped the game in pattern bargaining for pay and furlough protections. The furloughees got their full longevity credit with retro to 2012 (finally). It's no wonder it passed by such a large margin. No brainer.
02-05-2019 | 11:08 AM
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Absolutely! As the CEO of the Griswald Family Budgetary Pie, I can choose to shrink my slice and not buy that 30' fishing boat I've been eyeing, but rather increase the slice for my kids thru college savings or something else that directly benefits them. You see, there's the pilots slice and then there's company's pie. Oh how much fun it is when they take our generosity and throw it down on something for themselves. Hint, I'm not buying the company a Bertram.
So we don’t buy more planes and we give bigger raises is how you would achieve this contract based on your example? Please tell me you aren’t on the negotiation committee.
Maybe you can get that pony and the “every Thursday” work day contract you think you need. Perhaps they can negotiate you your own blue cooler bag.
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