Vacancy 20-02V
09-17-2019, 01:26 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
Enough about ORD let’s write about hats:
Yep like the white hats!
The hat makes it all worth while.
Yep like the white hats!
The hat makes it all worth while.
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09-17-2019, 02:14 PM
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So can future indoc classes only be awarded left over vacancies from the current bid or can they go back further?
Also, can the vacancies created from the current bid then be offered to new hires or do they have to have another vacancy bid?
Example: say after all is said and done there are 10 756 FO DCA positions left vacant by people moving up or to another airframe. Can a new hire class be offered those DCA slots without another bid therefore preventing a current 757 FO at another base from moving to DCA?
Also, can the vacancies created from the current bid then be offered to new hires or do they have to have another vacancy bid?
Example: say after all is said and done there are 10 756 FO DCA positions left vacant by people moving up or to another airframe. Can a new hire class be offered those DCA slots without another bid therefore preventing a current 757 FO at another base from moving to DCA?
09-17-2019, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gollum
So can future indoc classes only be awarded left over vacancies from the current bid or can they go back further?
Also, can the vacancies created from the current bid then be offered to new hires or do they have to have another vacancy bid?
Example: say after all is said and done there are 10 756 FO DCA positions left vacant by people moving up or to another airframe. Can a new hire class be offered those DCA slots without another bid therefore preventing a current 757 FO at another base from moving to DCA?
Also, can the vacancies created from the current bid then be offered to new hires or do they have to have another vacancy bid?
Example: say after all is said and done there are 10 756 FO DCA positions left vacant by people moving up or to another airframe. Can a new hire class be offered those DCA slots without another bid therefore preventing a current 757 FO at another base from moving to DCA?
09-17-2019, 03:03 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by gollum
So can future indoc classes only be awarded left over vacancies from the current bid or can they go back further?
Also, can the vacancies created from the current bid then be offered to new hires or do they have to have another vacancy bid?
Example: say after all is said and done there are 10 756 FO DCA positions left vacant by people moving up or to another airframe. Can a new hire class be offered those DCA slots without another bid therefore preventing a current 757 FO at another base from moving to DCA?
Also, can the vacancies created from the current bid then be offered to new hires or do they have to have another vacancy bid?
Example: say after all is said and done there are 10 756 FO DCA positions left vacant by people moving up or to another airframe. Can a new hire class be offered those DCA slots without another bid therefore preventing a current 757 FO at another base from moving to DCA?
The pilot contract requires that all open positions must first be offered to active line pilots. Beyond that, the company will consider the most pressing staffing needs and training capacity. It doesn’t appear to be linear in that oldest vacancies are offered first.
09-17-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
The company has some latitude on how and when to offer BES to new hires.
The pilot contract requires that all open positions must first be offered to active line pilots. Beyond that, the company will consider the most pressing staffing needs and training capacity. It doesn’t appear to be linear in that oldest vacancies are offered first.
The pilot contract requires that all open positions must first be offered to active line pilots. Beyond that, the company will consider the most pressing staffing needs and training capacity. It doesn’t appear to be linear in that oldest vacancies are offered first.
Last edited by gollum; 09-17-2019 at 03:17 PM.
09-17-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gollum
How long are unfilled vacancy bids valid?
92 days after the results are posted.
So the vacancies from July will be expiring in October and any new hire after that will have to use whatever ends up open on this vacancy or subsequent ones.
8-C-8 Bulletined but unfilled First Officer vacancies and secondary vacancies may be used by the Company for the assignment of new hire pilots.
8-F-3-d In the event a vacancy is not filled within ninety-two (92) days of the date the award bulletin was issued, the vacancy shall be cancelled.
09-17-2019, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
The blue hair is ok and I always hear music like that when I fly.
For those wondering about unfilled vacancies here on a very public forum; great move having someone else look up and quote your contract to you.
And for those in the hiring mill; you will get what you get when you check into the Training Center and place your class bid from what's available. Today it may be EWR and Guam may show up in the future.
09-17-2019, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
92 days after the results are posted.
So the vacancies from July will be expiring in October and any new hire after that will have to use whatever ends up open on this vacancy or subsequent ones.
So the vacancies from July will be expiring in October and any new hire after that will have to use whatever ends up open on this vacancy or subsequent ones.
One last question: There are NO 756 FO positions on this bid. If people who are currently 756 FOs bid to another category how do they get backfilled? by a subsequent bid? or can the company use those now open slots new hires without bidding them?
09-17-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gollum
Thank you and thank you for the references.
One last question: There are NO 756 FO positions on this bid. If people who are currently 756 FOs bid to another category how do they get backfilled? by a subsequent bid? or can the company use those now open slots new hires without bidding them?
One last question: There are NO 756 FO positions on this bid. If people who are currently 756 FOs bid to another category how do they get backfilled? by a subsequent bid? or can the company use those now open slots new hires without bidding them?
Secondly, if there were, they’d be only for current pilots to bid. Then any unfilled that are posted as such, can be used for new hires and don’t have to be re-bid for the pilot group.
A lot of the bidding is merely set to seed training for new hires, so we have an artificially high number of 756, Bus, and Guppy FOs in SFO on the bids because they will go unfilled and new hires will be able to get them.
There is no seat, that a new hire can get that isn’t first offered to the pilot group.
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