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10-28-2019, 04:29 AM
#131
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Originally Posted by 82spukram
Rv
It sucks.
I would rather have an option that you carry your seat lock forward once a career so a new hire could bid off the 756 to lower band to be based at home but then would take an equipment lock of 2 years plus the balance of your initial lock....say you bid down after 6 months on property then your new lock would be 3.5 years. However we are suppose to have a sizable bid next month (December not the November one) and if that is true I would imagine you will be happy then......also consider bidding up to the 777 and hope to go 92 days past the effective date and then use 8-F-9 to bump to the desired equipment and base....
My point is there are ways to break the lock.
Good luck
It sucks.
I would rather have an option that you carry your seat lock forward once a career so a new hire could bid off the 756 to lower band to be based at home but then would take an equipment lock of 2 years plus the balance of your initial lock....say you bid down after 6 months on property then your new lock would be 3.5 years. However we are suppose to have a sizable bid next month (December not the November one) and if that is true I would imagine you will be happy then......also consider bidding up to the 777 and hope to go 92 days past the effective date and then use 8-F-9 to bump to the desired equipment and base....
My point is there are ways to break the lock.
Good luck
10-28-2019, 04:39 AM
#132
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
Great points all around! The carry forward seat lock would be a win win and help a lot of people.
10-28-2019, 04:51 AM
#133
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Originally Posted by Triumph
Not correct. For those that are gone on long term military leave, they take a look back at your last 12 months of work, and whatever your monthly average is for those months, you’ll get 16% of that put into your B-fund.
However, you do not receive profit sharing for the years your are out on ML.
However, you do not receive profit sharing for the years your are out on ML.
Kind of a nice incentive. Unfortunately, I can also see how this could (and probably has been ) be a abused And also how someone who doesn’t have that option could get a little torqued.
10-28-2019, 05:34 AM
#134
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Originally Posted by gollum
I can’t find where that’s contractual, so I guess it’s just United’s policy?
10-28-2019, 05:38 AM
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I think it’s more the law, though the monthly average is not exactly what I would call “industry standard”. Those that “don’t have that option” could go sign on the dotted line, take a paycut, spend time in less that ideal locations away from your family and then maybe you’d become “un-torqued”.
10-28-2019, 05:39 AM
#136
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
If memory serves, it's federal law.
10-28-2019, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gollum
No, it’s definitely not federal law. USERRA does not in any way require an employer to make contributions to your retirement account while on mil leave. It does have a provision to allow the service member to do make up contributions to their account.
Wrong again....
USERRA requires that an employee's period of military duty be counted as service with the employer for purposes of eligibility, vesting, and the allocation of employer contributions under a 401(k) plan. ... An employee cannot be treated as having incurred a break in service because of a period of military service.
What other questions can we answer for you?
10-28-2019, 05:46 AM
#138
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Originally Posted by Triumph
I think it’s more the law, though the monthly average is not exactly what I would call “industry standard”. Those of you that “don’t have that option” could go sign on the dotted line, take a paycut, spend time in less that ideal locations away from your family and then maybe you’d become “un-torqued”.
Second, It absolutely ****es me off when I hear about people who get hired and the immediately drop mil leave. Not the ones who are being deployed (that happens) but rather the ones serving in home station positions doing exactly what they were doing 3 months ago. For these guys, it’s usually NOT a pay cut as not only are they making more than first year airline pay (at just about all airlines) but they are usually also trying to finish out their 20 to get that check of the month.
That’s not what USERRA was intended for and it gets abused way too often.
Go preach else where!
10-28-2019, 06:01 AM
#139
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Originally Posted by gollum
First off, I signed on the dotted line 19 years ago, and continue to serve my country in the reserve component. I have spent many many months in those such locations.
Second, It absolutely ****es me off when I hear about people who get hired and the immediately drop mil leave. Not the ones who are being deployed (that happens) but rather the ones serving in home station positions doing exactly what they were doing 3 months ago. For these guys, it’s usually NOT a pay cut as not only are they making more than first year airline pay (at just about all airlines) but they are usually also trying to finish out their 20 to get that check of the month.
That’s not what USERRA was intended for and it gets abused way too often.
Go preach else where!
Second, It absolutely ****es me off when I hear about people who get hired and the immediately drop mil leave. Not the ones who are being deployed (that happens) but rather the ones serving in home station positions doing exactly what they were doing 3 months ago. For these guys, it’s usually NOT a pay cut as not only are they making more than first year airline pay (at just about all airlines) but they are usually also trying to finish out their 20 to get that check of the month.
That’s not what USERRA was intended for and it gets abused way too often.
Go preach else where!
Sounds like a good bit of jealousy. Someone got a better deal than you and you don’t like it. If people didn’t have the option to have their civilian employment rights protected while still performing their military duty (short term or long term) we wouldn’t have much of a volunteer military would we?
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10-28-2019, 06:08 AM
#140
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No jealousy, had the opportunity to do it, just don’t think it’s right. There’s protecting reemployment rights (good) and there is abusing those rights (bad). The law was not intended to allow someone to go hold an AGR position and you know it.
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