Vacancy 20-03V
#151
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https://www.cohenmilstein.com/case-s...rra-litigation
The duffer case was the case that won it.
That case was born from this case......any questions?
https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinion...05-CV0.wpd.pdf
and this is the original filing...https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...173/702369/43/
#152
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Lets re-litigate the Continental Airlines military discrimination lawsuit again shall we?
Seriously...…..what an idiotic thing to say. both in this post and in the previous post.
Military leave is fully protected by federal law, regardless of when the Commander in Chief activates you, voluntary, involuntary, etc.
if someone gets hired and then goes gets activated shortly after being hired it is what it is. The company is and should still be VERY delighted and very excited about hiring a fully trained, vetted, and qualified military pilot. it's a win win for the company, and Oscar Munoz is happy as a lark to have him or her on board, regardless of when they complete all of their UAL training requirements and hit the line.
Seriously...…..what an idiotic thing to say. both in this post and in the previous post.
Military leave is fully protected by federal law, regardless of when the Commander in Chief activates you, voluntary, involuntary, etc.
if someone gets hired and then goes gets activated shortly after being hired it is what it is. The company is and should still be VERY delighted and very excited about hiring a fully trained, vetted, and qualified military pilot. it's a win win for the company, and Oscar Munoz is happy as a lark to have him or her on board, regardless of when they complete all of their UAL training requirements and hit the line.
I was merely pointing out that those who abuse it and knowingly take a training spot from someone else with the full intent of dropping mil leave right after training are selfish. Maybe you are in that category (and therefore a little sensitive of it) or maybe not. Either way, my view of the situation remains unchanged.
And yes, I was wrong about b-fund, but that doesn’t change the rest.
Last edited by tomgoodman; 10-28-2019 at 05:42 PM. Reason: Language
#153
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No one is arguing it’s the law, And no one is disputing the legality of taking military leave.
I was merely pointing out that those who abuse it and knowingly take a training spot from someone else with the full intent of dropping mil leave right after training are selfish. Make by you are in that category (and therefore a little sensitive of it) or maybe not. Either way, my view of the situation remains unchanged.
And yes, I was wrong about b-fund, but that doesn’t change the rest.
I was merely pointing out that those who abuse it and knowingly take a training spot from someone else with the full intent of dropping mil leave right after training are selfish. Make by you are in that category (and therefore a little sensitive of it) or maybe not. Either way, my view of the situation remains unchanged.
And yes, I was wrong about b-fund, but that doesn’t change the rest.
It's a sensitive subject because I had to battle for these folks and go to war with douchebag management pilots who couldn't hack it on the line and were hiding from the flight deck by hiding behind their desks.
to make matters worse, the CAL MEC, who was taking these military pilots dues money was inept, inefficient, and in bed with management and had no stomach for a fight. They should have never take their dues money if they weren't willing to fight for their rights.
We shouldn't have to go to war against management in order to help those that are actually going to war for us!
But, hey, fights on. I am cool with you having your opinion based on your view of the situation. But, it's really not a situation. it rarely happens. Most guys try and work it out with their commanders to leave them be while they are in training for the airlines. They make up UTA's and as much training as they can on the front-side so they can be gone from their guard/reserve unit for a few months.
An AGR tour sucks just as bad as being a junior plebe on the narrow-body in SFO or EWR. I wouldn't want to be in the guard/reserve today, and in today's politically correct no-fun climate of insanity.
Last edited by tomgoodman; 10-28-2019 at 05:43 PM. Reason: Language in quoted post
#154
This escalated quickly from the vacancy bid to attacking military pilots. What the hell? It’s nobody’s business, the end.
Can we just stay on topic
Can we just stay on topic
#155
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“An AGR tour sucks just as bad as being a junior plebe on the narrow-body in SFO or EWR. I wouldn't want to be in the guard/reserve today, and in today's politically correct no-fun climate of insanity.”
This sums it ip perfectly! Yet, I feel like some airlines, mainly FedEx and Delta are shying away from AGR’s. I know they can’t openly discriminate for this reason, but who’s stopping them? They don’t give TBNT reasons nor do they have to. I hope United isn’t like this as I’m Nervously waiting for my post interview call this week. I’m AGR but I made sure to tell them I was ready to retire ASAP for the reasons listed above.
This sums it ip perfectly! Yet, I feel like some airlines, mainly FedEx and Delta are shying away from AGR’s. I know they can’t openly discriminate for this reason, but who’s stopping them? They don’t give TBNT reasons nor do they have to. I hope United isn’t like this as I’m Nervously waiting for my post interview call this week. I’m AGR but I made sure to tell them I was ready to retire ASAP for the reasons listed above.
#156
“An AGR tour sucks just as bad as being a junior plebe on the narrow-body in SFO or EWR. I wouldn't want to be in the guard/reserve today, and in today's politically correct no-fun climate of insanity.”
This sums it ip perfectly! Yet, I feel like some airlines, mainly FedEx and Delta are shying away from AGR’s. I know they can’t openly discriminate for this reason, but who’s stopping them? They don’t give TBNT reasons nor do they have to. I hope United isn’t like this as I’m Nervously waiting for my post interview call this week. I’m AGR but I made sure to tell them I was ready to retire ASAP for the reasons listed above.
This sums it ip perfectly! Yet, I feel like some airlines, mainly FedEx and Delta are shying away from AGR’s. I know they can’t openly discriminate for this reason, but who’s stopping them? They don’t give TBNT reasons nor do they have to. I hope United isn’t like this as I’m Nervously waiting for my post interview call this week. I’m AGR but I made sure to tell them I was ready to retire ASAP for the reasons listed above.
The pool of highly qualified applicants is beginning to get shallow and the airlines know they can’t afford to turn their noses up at military pilots, regardless of their current military status.
Good luck on the call!
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#157
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Next vacancy sometime next month? Medium size I hear? MOAB in Dec? Hotel? Trivago.
#158
Has the massive 2020 summer bid already happened or is there yet a bigger bid to come with bigger movement?
#160
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From: SFO Guppy CA
I just talked to my LEC Rep the other day, and he said that the next couple of bids are going to be big bids. That is what they are being told by the Company. For what that’s worth???
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