While it doesn’t say so verbatim, I think you can read the tea leaves that there will be a hiatus.

I recently posed training questions to PC at Crew Resources. He was open as much as he could be. Bottom line: too much in flux right now.

I had theorized that while we may be overstaffed on the 787 and 777 now due to the drawdown of Asia flying, there is a balance between staff reduction (say, due to attrition), vs training capacity shortfalls if they delay.

By coincidence, this was posted on APC yesterday. Seems to be an internal IATA paper....very interesting.

Bottom line: hiring will likely continue, but at a slower pace, until WuHu is resolved.

COVID-19 effects on Pilot demand | Audries Aircraft Analysis

 

Edit: beat me to it! ☝🏽

I saw this posted yesterday. It’s logical, well researched and is devoid of all the emotional overreaction we keep seeing. Chill people, chillllllll

COVID-19 effects on Pilot demand | Audries Aircraft Analysis

 

That’s excellent, too bad some people won’t see it from behind the duct taped basement door.

 

What? duct taping doors works?

 

As long as you don’t remove your tinfoil hat.....yes.

 

The previous email they sent said classes in “spring to summer”. This one now reads “summer and beyond”. You know HR is legally over sensitive, so their words are chosen and parsed carefully. Why send the letter in the first place, that was out of the ordinary. Then update it with new wording that shifts the time?

Maybe in your world of unicorns and fairies, all hiring will happen on time and COVID-19 vaccines will be delivered world wide via 737 MAX aircraft tomorrow, but I for one know what this means. Hiring is paused.


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”Unicorns and fairies?” Laughable....doesn’t really matter to me one way or the other.

 

Perhaps it's helpful to hire employees that understand that the minorities these groups are named after were, in some cases officially, and in some cases subliminally excluded from our industry for years. Perhaps they understand that these organizations exist to be inclusive, not divisive.

The fact that you can call them divisive truly only shows your ignorance, so I'd invite you to grab a member of any of these groups and ask them about what the purpose and benefit of them is.

In an industry where it's still common (in 2020!) to hear jokes about "empty kitchens" when a female controller is working, more gay jokes than I can even recall, and thinly veiled racism ("2 thugs, a towbar and a tug"), these organizations are a place where everyone is welcome and accepted, as long as they can be respectful.

I'm just a heavy equipment operator too, but it seems that United would not be taking its fiduciary responsibility seriously if it didn't attempt to reach out and engage minorities. I'm sorry it makes YOU feel uncomfortable, but tangent, United also reaches out to military members and family members of current employees with targeted career fairs. Certainly you don't feel those are divisive?


If you don't want United at a convention because "black", "women", or "gay" is in the name, then does that means you also feel that the other companies and government organizations that attend shouldn't be there either? If so, then you're saying that you don't even want "them" to have a career fair.

Let me know what other organization is sending pilots to schools in low income and minority areas, saying "Hey kids, I know you never see a black pilot in the movies (well, a sober one), but you can still achieve this goal if you work hard and look like me!"


I can't tell you how many times I've answered the question "but are there women pilots?"

I can't explain the frustration of visiting a school, and realizing that most of the girls in the class immediately lose interest when a male pilot walks in, in uniform. The joy in seeing the difference in their whole demeanor when a uniformed female pilot walks in.

And you know what's better than having a male white pilot or a male black pilot or a female pilot or a gay pilot talk to children? Having all of them, there together.

So please, educate me on what I'm missing with these "divisive" groups.


By the way, since I'm just a pilot... These companies seem to value diversity as well. Maybe they're on to something.

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The divisiveness is evident when you need to insult a fellow professional who disagrees with you and asks a reasonable question. The divisiveness is evident when your insecurity and hostility are noticeable in your reply.

I did not question the purpose or benefit of the aforementioned groups. I questioned their connection to the pilot recruitment process. Your reply has only strengthened my previously held belief.

As far as career fairs, any career fair — they do seem to be a rather inefficient, subjective and biased way to initiate the hiring process; regardless of who is hosting them.

And by the way, one doesn’t need to be a minority or be a member of a special interest group to understand the historical implications of discrimination throughout the history of the nation.

Remain in good health.

 

You did not question the purpose of the groups. I'm glad that you have a handle on the historical implications of discrimination, truly. You did however, call them "divisive."

I certainly did not insult you, but it does appear I've struck a nerve. Have a nice day/night, it's afternoon on this side of the planet.