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01-20-2021 | 08:08 PM

#81

ReadyRsv

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

If you are a line holder you get LPA.

... for your tier. FO or CA no diff. The numbers are published in PBS for each group each month.

01-20-2021 | 08:16 PM

#82

MasterOfPuppets

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From: 787

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReadyRsv

... for your tier. FO or CA no diff. The numbers are published in PBS for each group each month.

true and 787 numbers have been very high for all Tiers.

01-21-2021 | 10:56 AM

#83

Yermom

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG

Grandfather rights have been an item to address along with pay protection and a myriad of others. It’s a manual, not automated, process unfortunately. Like many others that are on the list to be fixed.

Could you please explain "grandfather rights"? Also, concerning pay protection, does someone who is currently pay protected have to bid base, equipment and seat or just equipment and seat in order to maintain pay protection?

Thank you!!!
Yermom

01-21-2021 | 01:43 PM

#84

LeeFXDWG

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From: B737 CAPT IAH

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Originally Posted by Yermom

Simply stated, those with grandfather rights will be awarded before pilots senior to them for a given vacancy. I won’t go any deeper here on that topic.

As to pay protection bidding requirements to maintain that status, I would need information on your personal status I won’t handle, nor should you provide, on this venue. Please PDR the union using the LOA 20-05 option or SSC Manpower. PDR.ALPA.org

01-21-2021 | 01:44 PM

#85

Sniper66

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From: Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yermom

A pilot has to have as first choice on his bid the base and seat he/she was displaced from in order for him/her to be pay protected .

when openings are available, he or she will be grandfather to their old position before any new and even senior pilot

01-21-2021 | 02:41 PM

#86

Yermom

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Thank you, both.

01-21-2021 | 03:04 PM

#87

hummingbear

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

united CA is back down to 5 years.

Sort of. There may be 1 or 2 BES where it gets that low, but only with grandfathered guys. So while junior NB CA may end up being a 5 year, it isn’t actually available to be bid by anyone of that seniority, as of yet. Most junior non-grandfathered NB CAs I’m seeing are around mid 8,xxx seniority. (Maybe someone can put a number on that- closer to 10 years+?)

01-21-2021 | 03:15 PM

#88

Tony Nelson

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From: 756 F/O

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper66

I don't think it has to be your first choice if you have a higher paying position above it.

01-21-2021 | 05:18 PM

#89

Duckdude

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From: B767 Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by hummingbear

I can’t hold captain anywhere based on today’s snapshot, with over 13 years of seniority. I’m not really even very close - hundreds of numbers away. I don’t have any grandfather rights - my BES closed so I have nothing to
go back to.