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Old 07-28-2021 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Nice triggered response. I have the vax, however if another adult decides not to, I don’t care. I also don’t care if they smoke, drink, are obese, ride motorcycles, skydive, play in traffic, or introduce their wives to their girlfriend. Life is full of risk, and in a free society it should be up to the individual, not the masses.
Your job is a direct reflection of the vaccination rate it is not reflection of who smokes and drinks. We don’t lockdown for drinking problems. This is gonna go on for a long time until people start waking up.
Old 07-28-2021 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
your fears are unfounded since the scenario you’re projecting is unlikely. the delta variant is up in the air and appears to spread through the vaccinated. but even though it spreads quickly, it’s statistically far less dangerous, which is what faucci and CDC said would happen early on. so your gaslighting in order to manipulate is really pointless.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z

those who’ve had Covid are better off than those who were vaccinated. these studies are from UM school of medicine and Cleveland Clinic. Johns-Hopkins, Un of Louisville, MIT, Sanford, Washington Un and others have also done studies corroborating these findings. however you’re likely to continue to get your facts from Anderson and Rachel, since this really isn’t about health and safety.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...nic-study.aspx

https://medicine.missouri.edu/news/s...severe-illness
my fears are unfounded? As I literally book another flight to go to a pilots funeral!
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Checking in after a few pages. Has anyone changed anyone's mind yet?

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Old 07-28-2021 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR;[url=tel:3270202
3270202[/url]]^What an Ass! As another United pilot dies of covid!! You should care! Get the Vax!
can any Ual guys verify this?
Old 07-28-2021 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Your job is a direct reflection of the vaccination rate it is not reflection of who smokes and drinks. We don’t lockdown for drinking problems. This is gonna go on for a long time until people start waking up.
I don’t remotely consider this job when I vote or evaluate any national policy. Perhaps we should shift our mandates to something more serious than COVID if it is really about saving lives. There are far more deaths related to obesity, alcohol, and tobacco than COVID could ever dream of. This is going to go on for a long time as long as there is either money to be made, or political mileage to be gained.
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
can any Ual guys verify this?
Yes

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Old 07-28-2021 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxy5
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Old 07-28-2021 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
your fears are unfounded since the scenario you’re projecting is unlikely. the delta variant is up in the air and appears to spread through the vaccinated. but even though it spreads quickly, it’s statistically far less dangerous, which is what faucci and CDC said would happen early on. so your gaslighting in order to manipulate is really pointless.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z

those who’ve had Covid are better off than those who were vaccinated. these studies are from UM school of medicine and Cleveland Clinic. Johns-Hopkins, Un of Louisville, MIT, Sanford, Washington Un and others have also done studies corroborating these findings. however you’re likely to continue to get your facts from Anderson and Rachel, since this really isn’t about health and safety.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...nic-study.aspx

https://medicine.missouri.edu/news/s...severe-illness
Those are %'s of verified covid patients and not Bubba who had the "China virus" slamming beer cans on his boat. The argument "that I already had covid" is largely expecting us to trust their self diagnoses. It only seems to be coming from the extremist political type trying to make an anti-science argument. How did this hypothetical person verify that they had covid? Did they get the antibody test or are we basing this on a few sniffles? The testing for covid had a lot of false positives early on so how much weight are we throwing behind Bubba and his self diagnosed "China virus" to get the libs? I have flown with one of these "had it" types and he subsequently quarantined the whole crew after he got the real one.

Calling the delta variant far less dangerous when it has an R value optimistically around 5, is still mutating, and huge countries don't yet have widespread vaccine coverage... it discredits your whole post. We have the vaccine, data, and research to disprove most conspiracy claims and yet we arguing semantics with tin foil hatters. The sound bytes from Breitbart, OAN, fox are discredited with a simple two second search. This is going to continue to affect lives, children's education and their social development, and people will continue to get sick when we have the resources to stop this thing. Why are we coddling people that refuse a vaccine on pure hysterics from political extremists? I am absolutely baffled.
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Those are %'s of verified covid patients and not Bubba who had the "China virus" slamming beer cans on his boat. The argument "that I already had covid" is largely expecting us to trust their self diagnoses. It only seems to be coming from the extremist political type trying to make an anti-science argument. How did this hypothetical person verify that they had covid? Did they get the antibody test or are we basing this on a few sniffles? The testing for covid had a lot of false positives early on so how much weight are we throwing behind Bubba and his self diagnosed "China virus" to get the libs? I have flown with one of these "had it" types and he subsequently quarantined the whole crew after he got the real one.

Calling the delta variant far less dangerous when it has an R value optimistically around 5, is still mutating, and huge countries don't yet have widespread vaccine coverage... it discredits your whole post. We have the vaccine, data, and research to disprove most conspiracy claims and yet we arguing semantics with tin foil hatters. The sound bytes from Breitbart, OAN, fox are discredited with a simple two second search. This is going to continue to affect lives, children's education and their social development, and people will continue to get sick when we have the resources to stop this thing. Why are we coddling people that refuse a vaccine on pure hysterics from political extremists? I am absolutely baffled.
Why not let those who chose not to get vaccinated deal with the consequences of their decision? If they get COVID and don’t have the antibodies from either a previous exposure or the vaccine, then that’s their problem. It’s still a virus with a very low mortality rate, yet we act like it is certain death. It affects our lives because we let it. More mask mandates and restrictions will give the illusion of doing something, but it won’t change much. If the unvaccinated want to roll the dice, I say let them.
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus;[url=tel:3270296
3270296[/url]]Those are %'s of verified covid patients and not Bubba who had the "China virus" slamming beer cans on his boat. The argument "that I already had covid" is largely expecting us to trust their self diagnoses. It only seems to be coming from the extremist political type trying to make an anti-science argument. How did this hypothetical person verify that they had covid? Did they get the antibody test or are we basing this on a few sniffles? The testing for covid had a lot of false positives early on so how much weight are we throwing behind Bubba and his self diagnosed "China virus" to get the libs? I have flown with one of these "had it" types and he subsequently quarantined the whole crew after he got the real one.

Calling the delta variant far less dangerous when it has an R value optimistically around 5, is still mutating, and huge countries don't yet have widespread vaccine coverage... it discredits your whole post. We have the vaccine, data, and research to disprove most conspiracy claims and yet we arguing semantics with tin foil hatters. The sound bytes from Breitbart, OAN, fox are discredited with a simple two second search. This is going to continue to affect lives, children's education and their social development, and people will continue to get sick when we have the resources to stop this thing. Why are we coddling people that refuse a vaccine on pure hysterics from political extremists? I am absolutely baffled.
I guess you didn’t read the links to the actual studies but rather just commented on my intro with typical gaslighting, name-calling and political assigning. I don’t watch any news, much less what you attributed my POV to, and certainly did not use any news sound bites. But hey, rather than check out the given references and do a little research it’s a lot easier for you to defend your POV by saying opposing arguments are just “sound bites. There is no tin foil in Cleveland Clinic, Johns-Hopkins etc. But there is a lot of hot air in your MSM-based comments.

Almost all in our family had Covid. We tested positive, then negative and now test positive for the antibodies. I’m currently testing positive for antibodies through the Red Cross eight months later. I also know for a fact I’ve been exposed since and have not gotten re-infected.

The data I’ve posted in the past also points out that while there is a rise in the delta variant in vaccinated people, that has not happened in previously infected people. Efficacy from infection is 99.35%, higher than any vax, and historically, previous infections are effective against variants up to 80% different than the original infection. Research my post history for those links.

So instead of doing what you’re accusing me of, read the studies to get your info and lay off the CNN.
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