Vacancy 22-04V
#121
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Many of our pilots have spent decades on deployments away from their families. Being in control of their schedules, getting better vacation awards, and knowing that they’ll be home for Christmas is worth a bunch of money. Being a first officer around here pays pretty well and I can totally see why people would pass on giving all of that up for a few more dollars. I missed out on a bunch of money by staying a very senior FO, but I wouldn’t change a thing if I could.
My advice to newhires is to spend their time focusing on the impact/consequences of their own choices. You won't go wrong if you do this inside the contract and framework of unity.
Some of us make poor choices then blame others for our circumstances.
#122
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That's one of the benefits (most of the time :-0 ) of being a United pilot -- CHOICE.
My advice to newhires is to spend their time focusing on the impact/consequences of their own choices. You won't go wrong if you do this inside the contract and framework of unity.
Some of us make poor choices then blame others for our circumstances.
My advice to newhires is to spend their time focusing on the impact/consequences of their own choices. You won't go wrong if you do this inside the contract and framework of unity.
Some of us make poor choices then blame others for our circumstances.
#123
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#124
It's a tad bit amusing people are actually griping about the 500/1000hr and off probation stipulations. The way they're flying us on the narrowbodies most newhires should be well above 500 hours before they finish the first year. The movement is incredible atm.
Probably 11,000 pilots on property that meet upgrade minimums and there's significantly fewer captains than FOs needed to staff flying. If the company can't fill captain vacancies (and widebody vacancies) that points more to the shortcomings of our contractual reserve rules and lack of incentive to upgrade seat and/or aircraft. Hopefully it will be ammunition to help us in contract negotiations. Getting rid of experience requirements only lowers the bar, and doesn't put pressure on management at the negotiating table.
Probably 11,000 pilots on property that meet upgrade minimums and there's significantly fewer captains than FOs needed to staff flying. If the company can't fill captain vacancies (and widebody vacancies) that points more to the shortcomings of our contractual reserve rules and lack of incentive to upgrade seat and/or aircraft. Hopefully it will be ammunition to help us in contract negotiations. Getting rid of experience requirements only lowers the bar, and doesn't put pressure on management at the negotiating table.
Solid statement. FWIW I think your dead on. Hope Contract reserve improves immensely which helps pilots and company.
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#127
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This was a WB focused bid too. Just wait until they start having vacancies to staff the huge NB deliveries starting in 2023. Maybe reserve really is a choice and people aren’t buying it. (Sarcasm for those easily triggered)
#129
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These vacancies are pretty amazing. Serious question, if there are going to be a pile of new narrowbody vacancies announced on the next vacancy, it's got to match growth in that flying. i.e. it's got to correlate to a proportional growth of lines along with reserve. Just thinking that's gotta at least help the equation a little.
#130
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These vacancies are pretty amazing. Serious question, if there are going to be a pile of new narrowbody vacancies announced on the next vacancy, it's got to match growth in that flying. i.e. it's got to correlate to a proportional growth of lines along with reserve. Just thinking that's gotta at least help the equation a little.
The amount of premium pay is also influencing people’s bids. Ive had numerous people that I fly with say that they can hold captain but don’t see the need. As a senior first flying premium trips they are roughly making the same money as a junior captain, they don’t fly red eyes or unproductive junk, they are in control of their schedule, and they get the vacation that they want. Why give that up?
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