Originally Posted by horrido27

Sitting home (actually laying.,) after getting banged up.
Gives me time to look at things and do numbers-
52 FO’s took the upgrade this vacancy. Of which. 10 are “supplemental”.. ie, PI’s?
net of 42 new Capts.

We were told that we were taking delivery of (roughly) one new aircraft every 3 days..

There is no way we are keeping up with new Captains to fill these new left seats.
The only way to operate this new aircraft, absent of a new UPA (which needs to fix NUMEROUS things..) is for the company to work both line holders and reserves to the max of both FAR limits and contractual limits.

Congrats on the new Captains…
Hope they understand that-
Barring a new UPA in the next few months, their lives will be hell- on reserve under these current rules. ESPECIALLY if you commute.
IF we have an ILC23 in the next few months.. they will be on reserve for at least the next 2 or 3 years while mid level FO’s bid in, keeping them at the bottom.
Gamble either way, hope the wager was worth the reward.

Motch

Originally Posted by Otterbox

Can’t take 100+ aircraft a year for growth if you can’t staff them. It probably wasn’t as big of an issue when Boeing and Airbus were delaying deliveries but with each passing month they take new aircraft it will become a more pressing issue.

Junior captains are looking at upto 10 years of life on reserve before being able to hold lines in some bases. That’s hard pass for a lot of those who could bid for CA under United’s reserve rules. There needs to be a massive overhaul of reserve rules to support United Next. If there isn’t, planes will start getting sent to the bone yard as the airline stagnates in size.

Originally Posted by horrido27

We were told that we were taking delivery of (roughly) one new aircraft every 3 days.. There is no way we are keeping up with new Captains to fill these new left seats.

Originally Posted by AH1Toaster

I'm surprised the lack of NB CA isn't more of a problem. EWR 777 FOs have an LCC of 77 so they can fly a 6-day W, a 4-day, and 20 days off. Upgrade to 737 for an LCC of 90 and 13 days off? Nope.

Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot

This is the big problem. WB is way too easy of a life. Its the #1 reason pilots from other majors are saying they left their carriers to come to United. Widebody flying. We are attracting QOL people who want easy lives, and even someone that can leave another airline and be a Captain in almost any base in a year isn’t causing them to leave as much as being a WB FO as a new hire.

Originally Posted by Chowdah

if you look at how many people have come off probation since the last vacancy and the number who have bid CA in this new vacancy, I think it looks like we’re not going to keep up with the growth.

It seems to me that the reality is, more and more young people are not willing to give up their life outside work for the almighty dollar. If you get hired in your 30s, you probably have a family and the quality of life you can have as a senior FO making 200,000 a year is a better trade than an extra 50 grand a year and six more days of work a month. If you’re young and actually enjoy the person you’re in a relationship with and/or have things you like to do outside of work, the extra money is not going to make up for the time lost away from your pursuits.

As hummingbear says, everyone has a number… But at this point, I don’t think the trade is worth it for most (as evidenced by the company asking people to upgrade)

Originally Posted by RaginCajun

How easy is it though?

Originally Posted by JetDoc

19 days off and when I DO go to work they give me a pillow and a blanket. Pretty easy.

Originally Posted by JetDoc

19 days off and when I DO go to work they give me a pillow and a blanket. Pretty easy.