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Old 04-27-2023 | 08:31 AM
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Interesting. Trying to find the UALPA budget and no luck so far. Anybody no where to look?
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Old 04-27-2023 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
I actually do understand it, because I’m not a moron.

It is still a fact that dues will increase the same amount of our raise. And since ALPA’s expenses include things other than trip loss, their net books balance will almost certainly also increase.
Do you think those other expenses haven’t gone up while our pay remained stagnant?
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Old 04-27-2023 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Interesting. Trying to find the UALPA budget and no luck so far. Anybody no where to look?
It's put out each and every quarter in the UAL MEC Treasurer's report. You can find them on the UAL MEC website. https://www.alpa.org/ual/ual-mec-eli...sort=relevancy

Here is the ALPA Int'l Treasurer's report. https://www.alpa.org/-/media/ALPA/Fi...es-dollars.pdf

Did you even bother looking for them?
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Old 04-27-2023 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Do you think those other expenses haven’t gone up while our pay remained stagnant?
Perhaps they have, but is ALPA operating on a deficit budget right now?

Not a chance. In fact with the number of pilots coming off probation every month they probably have a pretty sizable surplus.
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Old 04-27-2023 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
It's put out each and every quarter in the UAL MEC Treasurer's report. You can find them on the UAL MEC website. https://www.alpa.org/ual/ual-mec-eli...sort=relevancy

Here is the ALPA Int'l Treasurer's report. https://www.alpa.org/-/media/ALPA/Fi...es-dollars.pdf

Did you even bother looking for them?
Yes Jerry I did look, but I wasn't searching under "Treasurer" which is the key. Once again you find a need to be less than personable in your reply. Most unfortunate.

It looks as if this discussion though can now say that there is perhaps room for cutting our dues as the MEC has amassed quite a war chest already having over $35 million in the bank. Plus on the other forum someone mentioned that Delta pays 1% less than us. Don't know if that's true or not, but it would certainly support the idea of reducing our dues if true.
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Old 04-27-2023 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Plus on the other forum someone mentioned that Delta pays 1% less than us. Don't know if that's true or not, but it would certainly support the idea of reducing our dues if true.
1% of what? Dues or total income? Delta pilots are members of the same union United pilots belong to. It is call the Air Line Pilots Association, ALPA for short. All ALPA members pay the same percentage 1.85% of eligible income in dues.
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Old 04-27-2023 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
It's put out each and every quarter in the UAL MEC Treasurer's report. You can find them on the UAL MEC website. https://www.alpa.org/ual/ual-mec-eli...sort=relevancy

Here is the ALPA Int'l Treasurer's report. https://www.alpa.org/-/media/ALPA/Fi...es-dollars.pdf

Did you even bother looking for them?


was him that tried the in-house union back at 2010 or so
UPA?
what do you expect

Just a thought
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Old 04-27-2023 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
1% of what? Dues or total income? Delta pilots are members of the same union United pilots belong to. It is call the Air Line Pilots Association, ALPA for short. All ALPA members pay the same percentage 1.85% of eligible income in dues.
The DAL MEC periodically rebates dues to the pilots, so the effective rate is slightly less.
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Old 04-27-2023 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
It's put out each and every quarter in the UAL MEC Treasurer's report. You can find them on the UAL MEC website. https://www.alpa.org/ual/ual-mec-eli...sort=relevancy

Here is the ALPA Int'l Treasurer's report. https://www.alpa.org/-/media/ALPA/Fi...es-dollars.pdf

Did you even bother looking for them?

I think you need to use air quotes when saying you can find them. They aren’t where you’d think they’d be, like under treasurer reports which are super old. Let’s ditch the cost of the magazine and make a useful website.
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Old 04-27-2023 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The DAL MEC periodically rebates dues to the pilots, so the effective rate is slightly less.
They do that because for years(possibly a decade) the Delta MEC has proposed a dues reduction of .15% but theUAL Chairman has voted against it. So, ??? Maybe, good leads the way and where the fixed costs remain stable a dues reduction might be in order? I mean, if our mantra is Delta + , maybe we could REDUCE them more than the "industry leading" Delta proposal.
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