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05-02-2023 | 04:14 PM
#82
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Be specific. Where is the attrition going? Are they going to Delta or AA? Have the numbers increased in the last 3 months? How does attrition compare to historical norms? How does it compare to industry norms?
05-02-2023 | 04:24 PM
#83
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05-02-2023 | 04:26 PM
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Actually no, none of this. I’m surprised many of you fall for posts like this. Read between the lines a bit. Do you think this person actually wants us to get an industry leading contract, or do they come here to “rub it in”? He mentioned he is at DAL, and his posts read as if he is superior to you and your fellow UAL pilots. Is that someone you want to engage with? If he was smart, he should pray we get the best contract in aviation history. That way, DAL would have to follow and make even better improvements.
This is pattern bargaining and it’s why ALPA national can be so powerful. But instead, someone like that hopes we make no progress and feel inferior to other pilots.
This is pattern bargaining and it’s why ALPA national can be so powerful. But instead, someone like that hopes we make no progress and feel inferior to other pilots.
05-02-2023 | 04:38 PM
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You have worse QOL rules than DAL, AA, SWA and and most ULCC’s. Your management is dragging their feet over a few small improvements and people like you hate hearing me trash SK because you subconsciously defend him routinely.
Lay off that grass “pipe”man.
05-03-2023 | 04:35 AM
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... If he was smart, he should pray we get the best contract in aviation history. That way, DAL would have to follow and make even better improvements.
This is pattern bargaining and it’s why ALPA national can be so powerful. But instead, someone like that hopes we make no progress and feel inferior to other pilots.
This is pattern bargaining and it’s why ALPA national can be so powerful. But instead, someone like that hopes we make no progress and feel inferior to other pilots.
05-03-2023 | 06:28 AM
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With the Air Canada (4,500) and American pilots (15,000) joining ALPA that means a 30% increase in the number of higher paid pilots to the current 67,000 ALPA pilots. I am confident the dues rate will be coming down NLT the next BOD meeting in less than two years. If you want to see that happen start passing resolutions at your LECs now.
05-03-2023 | 07:46 AM
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Lmfao!! Actually I hope you blow our contract away idk wth you’re smoking tonight.
You have worse QOL rules than DAL, AA, SWA and and most ULCC’s. Your management is dragging their feet over a few small improvements and people like you hate hearing me trash SK because you subconsciously defend him routinely.
Lay off that grass “pipe”man.
You have worse QOL rules than DAL, AA, SWA and and most ULCC’s. Your management is dragging their feet over a few small improvements and people like you hate hearing me trash SK because you subconsciously defend him routinely.
Lay off that grass “pipe”man.
05-03-2023 | 08:38 AM
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it’s apparent that this is your first negotiation cycle, you’ve been at UAL for about 18 months? Please, regale us with your expertise.
05-03-2023 | 10:17 AM
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Supposedly UAL is having more than a few new hires leave after Indoc for DAL and AA. SK has always been cheap with his labor force and bold with his statements. He was able to hide behind UA-ALPA’s mishaps early this year but now he’s finally being exposed for the cheap SOB he always has been. I think anyone with a clear mind knows your pilot group will have the most difficult road ahead with gaining anything in QOL because of your CEO who believes words are worth more than actions.
Your management wants nothing more than to keep your reserve rules worse than most regionals. To be honest your global reserve is essentially slave labor as you’re essentially on duty the entire month except for 2 days. Your commuter policy sucks too.
The guy who left after 4 years probably read our contract at DAL, then read the NC emails and realized your pilot group is making little progress fighting for QOL gains we had in our previous contract at DAL.
Your management wants nothing more than to keep your reserve rules worse than most regionals. To be honest your global reserve is essentially slave labor as you’re essentially on duty the entire month except for 2 days. Your commuter policy sucks too.
The guy who left after 4 years probably read our contract at DAL, then read the NC emails and realized your pilot group is making little progress fighting for QOL gains we had in our previous contract at DAL.
The rest is overblown. The potential QoL gains are big on reserve, lineholder rules at UAL were better than the old PWA, so those will be minor.
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