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Old 12-09-2025 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
I’m sure you’d like to see a hard working pilot’s career go up in smoke. What a jerk.
I'd like to see you get some more hours at F9 and upgrade instead of continually whining on here. Hard worker.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
United is not posting new hire classes far in advance because we are running into a hotel availability issue in Denver. So with the large vacancies we've had plus the large new hire classes (85 new hires today) this is the new hire class bottleneck. We still have 128 planes coming in 2026 and we still have 562 mandatory retirements over the next 365 days, which means there will be hiring. But just because a Tuesday passes without a new hire class doesn't mean it was "cancelled" but that they just didn't start a class that date.

United wants to make sure they have enough hotel rooms before they start offering class dates.

The whole stupid rumor started because someone running the 8 ball ceremony, etc put out some dates in January on Facebook without realizing if there were classes those weeks and then removed them and this started speculation about "cancelled classes" because of Polaris suite backlog, 787 engine backlog, etc.

As of now its probably 2,000+ pilots being hired for 2026. It might be less in Jan and Feb than normal hiring years, but they will eventually catch up.

Good luck.
I heard a senior manager recently say next year UAL should hire 2000 + or - 1000. The joke being nobody knows for sure as it changes almost weekly. A lot depends on what aircraft will be delivered and when. We hired more in 2025 than we projected the beginning of the year.

Both Airbus and Boeing are having supplier issues that are affecting deliveries, but nobody knows if it will be a short blip or a long term issue.
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Old 12-10-2025 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
United is not posting new hire classes far in advance because we are running into a hotel availability issue in Denver. So with the large vacancies we've had plus the large new hire classes (85 new hires today) this is the new hire class bottleneck. We still have 128 planes coming in 2026 and we still have 562 mandatory retirements over the next 365 days, which means there will be hiring. But just because a Tuesday passes without a new hire class doesn't mean it was "cancelled" but that they just didn't start a class that date.

United wants to make sure they have enough hotel rooms before they start offering class dates.

The whole stupid rumor started because someone running the 8 ball ceremony, etc put out some dates in January on Facebook without realizing if there were classes those weeks and then removed them and this started speculation about "cancelled classes" because of Polaris suite backlog, 787 engine backlog, etc.

As of now its probably 2,000+ pilots being hired for 2026. It might be less in Jan and Feb than normal hiring years, but they will eventually catch up.

Good luck.

The latest 10Q has 116 deliveries for 2026, of which several of those will slip to 2027 due to Airbus and Boeing issues. Combined with aircraft retiremtents the net addition of aircraft will likely be around 80-100 frames. At 10-12 pilots needed per additonal aircraft plus retirements if going to be a good ball park guess on whats needed for 2026.
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Old 12-10-2025 | 09:28 AM
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looks like emails are going out for two classes in January so far
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Old 12-10-2025 | 09:44 AM
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Do any of you have hard mandatory retirement numbers for each year the next 10 years. I’ve found a couple charts online but they differ by 1,000 in the 5 year range…
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Old 12-10-2025 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MH223
Do any of you have hard mandatory retirement numbers for each year the next 10 years. I’ve found a couple charts online but they differ by 1,000 in the 5 year range…
By Jan1 2031 UAL will have 3225 mandatory retirements

Jan 1 2036 UAL will have 6027 mandatory retirements.

The next time UAL has less then 400 pilots retire per year (as of today's seniority list) is 2057.
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Old 12-10-2025 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
By Jan1 2031 UAL will have 3225 mandatory retirements

Jan 1 2036 UAL will have 6027 mandatory retirements.

The next time UAL has less then 400 pilots retire per year (as of today's seniority list) is 2057.
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Old 12-10-2025 | 11:47 AM
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Not sure how good of a sign it is, but the 81st 787 was delivered on Monday, so at least there is some movement at Boeing or the seat manufacturer or the certification office or whatever the hold up is/was. Guess we will have to wait until somebody can actually walk on the jet to see if it has the new seat setup or the old one??
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Old 12-10-2025 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
Not sure how good of a sign it is, but the 81st 787 was delivered on Monday, so at least there is some movement at Boeing or the seat manufacturer or the certification office or whatever the hold up is/was. Guess we will have to wait until somebody can actually walk on the jet to see if it has the new seat setup or the old one??

It’s my understanding that this latest 787 delivery will be the last aircraft with Polaris 1.0 installed. If the seat delays are indeed an issue, it will reflect on the upcoming deliveries as the next one is slated to be the first with the new Polaris configuration.
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Old 12-10-2025 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TogaParty
It’s my understanding that this latest 787 delivery will be the last aircraft with Polaris 1.0 installed. If the seat delays are indeed an issue, it will reflect on the upcoming deliveries as the next one is slated to be the first with the new Polaris configuration.
Indeed this was the last old Polaris delivery. The delay isn't the installs, its the FAA certification of the plane with the new suite configuration. There are two planes on the ramp in CHS done and another one on the assembly line right now. The planes will built and and then once they are certified for passenger use they will show up in rapid succession. Estimated in revenue service by March. Isn't supposed to change how many we get next year (21) but it just changes the timing of them, plus some of the 2025 deliveries are pushed to early next year as well.
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