Both Pierce and Hepner met with Moak today, I believe.[/B][/QUOTE]


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January 12, 2012
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Dear United Pilots:
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On Tuesday, I met with ALPA President Captain Lee Moak and CAL-MEC Chairman Captain Jay Pierce in Chicago to discuss the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA), despite the profit sharing dispute, and how best to proceed in attaining a joint contract. Despite the UAL-MEC’s pursuit of legal and contractual rights we may have over the process of the Continental pilots’ inclusion in the company’s United 2011 Profit Sharing, we continue to work together as leaders and MECs towards the JCBA. Captain Pierce and I agree that any disagreements between us should not affect our working relationship in achieving the best contract that we can for the collective good of our 12,000 United pilots. Business is business, and disputes are best handled by those we employ to handle disputes—legal counsel, grievance committees, etc. *These types of disputes are not and should not ever be personal.
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On Wednesday, Captain Pierce, United MEC Vice Chairman Captain Rick Perry and I met with Messrs. Mike Bonds and Doug McKeen to discuss Transition and Process Agreement (TPA) Section 13-A extensions. All parties have agreed to continue discussions related to the TPA extension and all desire a resolution to this matter in the very near future.
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The majority of Wednesday’s meeting with management was spent discussing how to complete the JCBA in the near term. Everyone at the meeting acknowledges that the JCBA will solve most, if not all, of our issues and the company’s issues as well. Senior management has committed to attend our JCBA negotiating sessions, beginning next week. *Management is expected to return a scheduling proposal to the JNC on Wednesday.
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We are at a juncture that will define our future relationships with others and how soon we achieve our JCBA. Stay focused on the contract; everything else is a distraction.
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We are United,
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Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United MEC*

 

As I have been saying all along. Let the JNC do its job without these outside distractions, as their are people to handle these issues. I'm glad Jay reconfirmed that.

In regards to the scheduling section, we have "expected" much from the company side before only to be disappointed. If they actually show up with a scheduling section, my money is that it will still be closer to CAL --- instead of UAL +++. Only time will tell.

 

That is certainly UCH's goal and if the MECs send it out it almost certainly be approved because enough CAL pilots will take any incremental improvement (see profit sharing threads) and I'm not sure UAL pilots can fully imagine our workrules are really that bad (they are--see 3 UAL pilots who quit after just a few weeks on CAL property).

 

Little misinformation there. The 3 or 4 that quit did so
Before even starting sims. Nothing to do with work rules.

 

Thanks for the correction.

 

Any idea why they quit?

 

I've heard the CAL training is poor in comparison to UAL's. No offense meant. I know it is frustrating some of the UAL guys that took the opportunity. That could be a reason.

 

I was in first class and the pilot that quit was going to Guam and had taken the furlough because of the tag flying. 2nd didn't want to deal with training. Don't know about 3 & 4?

 

CAL training command gave up waterboarding new hires when they were given full access to the fire hose by Ms. McCoy and the FAA. The last thing heard, by a new hire, is Welcome to Continental ( or United now) and then the rush of water from the fire hose until he/she is heading out on IOE.

 

I've been through training on all of CAL's aircraft. I can confirm that the training is poor.